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Mike The part below my quoted sentence is from Mary Baker, not me. I don't agree with her views. I don't want suburbia in urbia. I don't want big boxes. Taxes are fine as long as they go to schools and libraries and parks and public transportation and *small* business and co-ops (micro-loans for the last 2). StPaul should have its own unique flavor, not the prepackaged soullessness of chain America. Spent for needs for the people, the higher the taxes, the better the life (cf Norway, Sweden, Germany). --David Shove Roseville On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Mike Fratto wrote: > Ah! David. You come to the area for the money and the job. But you > want a lower cost of living. > > Well a lower cost of living doesn't always relate to lower taxes, > except where your incomce is lower. The cost of living is a factor > of wage rates, prices, utilities and taxes. Lower taxes will not > reduce the cost of living in this area. It will reduce the ability > of the governments to provide necessary services. Therefore, the > cost will have to borne by others. That may mean higher prices as > property insurance goes up to cover the cost of reimbursing property > owners for loses due to unresponsive public services, vandalism, > etc. > > If you want a lower cost of living state you need to move to a > place that pays lower wages and salaries, has a consistent average > temperature in the 70s and 80s so you don't have the high energy > bills for heating and cooling. Oh yes, maybe it should be in an > area where they pump oil so your driving costs are low. Now it also > should be in a lowly populated are so you auto insurance is low. Oh > yes it should have a state of the art medical system paid for by > some private benefactor (LOL). > > Mike Fratto > Payne Phalen > > > > >From David Shove: > "What is your vision for St. Paul? What would make it so > pleasurable to live > in that you'd never leave?" > > I only came here for the money, the job. I'd like to see lower > costs of > living, which usually means lower taxes. I'd like to see a > revitalized > urban area, which means more places that a person wants to shop. > Look at > all the things that attract people to a spanking new suburban area > and put > them into the urban areas if at all possible. > > > > _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ _____________________________________________ For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract
