St. Paul E-Democracy Links http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/links.html _________________________________________ Bob's point about Ruminator is well-taken. The Ruminator subject is getting almost as much attention as the stadium proposal, which is ridiculous... Ruminator has proven that it is a good neighbor to St. Paul, the amount that it's asking for is petty compared to those given to other businesses, and they're being backed by the contributions of neighbors who are willing to put their money where their mouth is to see them stay. I can't think of a better way to illustrate community support for a local business. Could Kincaid's, This is *exactly* the kind of business that the city should be lending support to.
I think Erik asserted yesterday that the city's financial support of Bound to be Read, just down the street, served as a similar example to the Ruminator situation. Actually, Bound to be Read is a Hubbard Broadcasting property (where news reporters can't say "global warming" on the air). In contrast, Ruminator is truly an independent bookstore, not owned (or beholden) to any of the corporate news media conglomerates. We need more stores like Ruminator in St. Paul. I can't recall if it was Tim who made this point... what if the stadium were held to the same standard? What if councilmembers who supported the stadium held community fundraisers to raise the dough, and asked the city to kick in the last $100,000 in the form of a loan or even a grant? Hey, maybe we could have a bakesale! "Brownies for Baseball," erin stojan ward 5, north end --- John Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > St. Paul E-Democracy Links > http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/links.html > _________________________________________ > > > > Hundreds of thousands of dollars of money is being > > contributed outright to > > Ruminator (without tax write-off) by hundreds of > > private individuals, > > because they believe in this institution, because > it > > is something special to > > them. > > I found an article here: > www.macalester.edu/weekly/121203/news03.html > > that says they only raised $36,000. Now that was > back > on the 12th of december so it is possible to get to > hundreds of thousands of dollars but I don't know. > > I think what is surprising about this discussion is > how the progressives can't understand that people > have > a problem with this. I mean if our roads are in > complete disrepair, our schools are failing, we > can't > feed the hungry and shelter the homeless. Our air > is > killing us and our water will kill us. Should we > really be thinking of bailing out a bookstore? > > Now, if a $100k handout from the city will truly > save > the bookstore, I can dig it. From what I am reading > and hearing, all it will do is give them a little > more > time. Simply giving them the money because Coleman > or > Kelly gave other businesses money just shouldn't > fly. > > John Harris > webber-camden > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. > Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > _____________________________________________ > NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your > password - visit: > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul > > Archive Address: > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ > _____________________________________________ > For state and national discussions see: > http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html > For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ===== ----------------------------------------- There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part; you can't even passively take part, and you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!--- Mario Savio ------------------------------------------ Erin Stojan North End, Ward 5 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ _____________________________________________ For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract
