I understand the issue regarding a train crossing a highly used street. However, how long would the delay be? A few second at the most. I agree, if you could put the light rail system below grade it would eliminate those headaches. But the cost would not be justified to save motorists a few seconds. Come on people, other cities have light rail systems that cross busy streets. How do they deal with these intersections? By the way, I don't know how much the light rail system is responsible for the traffic issues on Hiawatha. But I would bet the issues with broken crossing arms is due to driver thinking they can cross the tracks before the train gets there. I wonder how many of these drivers drive through freeway on ramp signals also. Mike Fratto Payne Phalen Waiting for the North Spoke
>>> John Birrenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/09/2004 9:02:11 PM >>> At 6:41 PM -0700 8/9/04, M Charles Swope wrote: >We need that line but it should be >different than the Hiawatha line. It should run down >the center of University, not be on a separate ROW. Going down University Ave is a bad idea unless you plan on going underground. It's not just Snelling Ave, it's also Lexington, Dale, Rice, it's the Tracks used by Amtrack, it's the over pass at 280..... The only smart solution to keep the roads as they are, not adversely affect the area, and have the ability to connect to downtown is to take it underground. Put up entrances at what ever streets you want connections to... and add them as you need them. Has anyone given any consideration on how you route something through the worst nightmare of a freeway, history center, cathederal, major hospitals, and capitol complex with the Union Depot? I didn't even start to talk about which of the DT streets are we going to completely give up if you go above ground. The only logical solution is a subway... Heck they got that big tunnel machine sitting someplace.... Make a hole!!! -- Sincerely, John Birrenbach W 7th Neighborhood, St Paul MN === Political & Business Consulting === http://www.birrenbach.com/ ====================================== "Six years on the council has trained me to feign interest for long periods of time" Chris Coleman Jan 21, 2004 +++++++++++++++ Unless it is something you think I will find funny don't reply personally, if it's relevant to a post I made then post it to the list for everyone to see. +++++++++++++++ _____________________________________________ To Join: St. Paul Issues Forum Rules Discussion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ _____________________________________________ To Join: St. Paul Issues Forum Rules Discussion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/
