On 7/16/2009 1:53 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: > Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: >> David E. Ross wrote: >>> On 7/15/2009 9:59 PM, Ant wrote: >>>> On 7/15/2009 8:38 AM PT, David E. Ross typed: >>>>>>> I noticed lately Gizmodo's Web pages are rendering slowly and >>>>>>> hogging >>>>>>> Web browser's CPU and memory badly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Example: >>>>>>> http://gizmodo.com/5313690/why-you-cant-complain-about-the-price-of-todays-gadgets >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is anyone else having this problem? If so, then what's going on? >>>>>>> Thank >>>>>>> you in advance. :) >>>>>>> >>>>>> on FF 1.5.0.9 / XP-SP2 that URL is a crapper... there is a script >>>>>> running that refuses to be killed, so I closed FF, disabled >>>>>> JavaScript >>>>>> and re-opened the URL.... it works properly that way for me. >>>>>> Try disabling JS, see what happens your end! >>>>>> >>>>>> reg >>>>> I've seen Web pages with scripts that, when rendering of the page is >>>>> done, a script then downloads additional scripts from a server. >>>>> Sometimes it seems that one of the addtional scripts then downloads >>>>> even >>>>> more scripts. Since I have a dial-up Internet connection, this really >>>>> slows things down. >>>>> >>>>> The Web site for the Vanguard Group (mutual funds) is one such >>>>> site. I >>>>> generally disable JavaScript when viewing pages at that site. >>>>> However, >>>>> I must enable JavaScript for certain pages to complete transactions or >>>>> view account statements. >>>> Did you ever e-mail the Web team over there? If so, then any luck? :( >>> There is also a problem with viewing parts of the Vanguard site with >>> SeaMonkey, caused by sniffing for "Firefox" and not "Gecko". See bug >>> #417955 at<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417955>. >>> >>> I sent E-mail to the Web team, I called them on the phone, and I sent a >>> postal letter to the CEO. They claim that the security of their Web >>> site requires that they test the site for any browser they allow to view >>> it. (After all, Vanguard is one of the two largest mutual fund groups >>> in the U.S.) They tested the site for Firefox but not for SeaMonkey. >>> They don't agree that "Gecko is Gecko". As for the delays caused by the >>> use of scripts that download more scripts, their response was that I >>> should use broadband service instead of dial-up. >>> >>> As for the sniffing for "Firefox", I ran into the same problem with my >>> bank and my credit union. I "solved" the problem by creating a special >>> SeaMonkey profile where I am permanently spoofing Firefox. (The UA >>> string ends with "SeaMonkey/1.1.17 NOT Firefox/2.0.0.20".) To make >>> these sites work, I also had to set my preferences to accept all cookies >>> and all popups. I am careful not to browse any other sites from that >>> profile. >>> >> David, I think it may be a little-more complicated than simply >> sniffing the Firefox vs SeaMonkey UA. >> I don't have a Vanguard account, so that may be a factor for me... >> I don't spoof-UA ever, but using the nightly-Linux-64bit build over >> broadband ~ >> >> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) >> Gecko/20090716 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.1a1pre ID:20090716013332 >> >> on your UA/Flash test-URL at >> >> <https://personal.vanguard.com/us/VanguardViewsArticlePublic?ArticleJSP=/freshness/News_and_Views/news_ALL_mmyields_01262009_ALL.jsp&src=NMC&returnLink=/freshness/News_and_Views/news_ALL_mmyields_01262009_ALL.jsp> >> >> I got this :- >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/3727717220/sizes/l/ >> >> Which I think, renders the page OK? What do you think? Barry. >> > A possible-clue maybe that at the time you made that test, you were > using 32bit Flash 10.0.12.36 (10.0 r12), whereas I notice I am now using > 64bit Flash-10.0.22.87-2 edition, which is more-stable than that older > flash which had many-rendering-problems, including fullscreen-crashes on > 32bit-Linux.
Actually, I block Flash by using the FlashBlock extension. I do not seem to miss any significant content in the Vanguard site by blocking Flash. In general, when a Web page uses Flash, it's merely for a whiz-bang effect and contributes nothing to content. This is true for most Web sites, not just Vanguard. Yes, there are a few sites that require Flash for navigating; for some sites, the home page is merely one large Flash presentation. I consider that to be an abominable practice. (For cases when I cannot avoid viewing a Flash presentation, I'm currently using Flash 10.0.22.87. I'm running WindowsXP SP2.) -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Go to Mozdev at <http://www.mozdev.org/> for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
