On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:57:15PM +0100, VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote: > Evan Daniel wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM, VolodyA! V > > Anarhist<volo...@whengendarmesleeps.org> wrote: > >> Luke771 wrote: > >>> Alex Pyattaev wrote: > >>>> Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that > >>>> try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed > >>>> tell you. Hope I'll ban some nasty users before you make a patch, so > >>>> that I can sleep well knowing that my bosses will never know about the > >>>> freenet users in the LAN=) > >>>> > >>> What you're doing here is catching Opennet users. Pure Darknet users > >>> wont be that easy to catch. > >> He has stated that the network does not allow "P2P applications" running > >> Freenet > >> as pure darknet will technically be "F2F", now we can start arguing > >> whether F2F > >> is a subset of P2P or a distinctly different thing. But if we accept that > >> F2F > >> and P2P are different, then people who haven't enabled Opennet are > >> actually not > >> violating that particular network's guidelines. > > > > Except that it's really, really obvious that friends are a subset of > > peers. See definition of peers. In a computing context, peers is as > > distinct from client/server etc. This is a silly argument, and any > > sysadmin will (rightly) tell you you're an idiot if you try to make > > it. > > > > Evan Daniel > > The issue with my university was that P2P applications do not let anybody > control who connects to your computer. Each person has to be responsible for > the > connections being made to the machine. Clearly F2F network is *not* a subset > of > P2P under that light. So many users will (rightly) call you an idiot (since > we > were not discussing peers and friends, but P2P and F2F). > > - Volodya
I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you. You control who your node connect with, but you *don't* control what goes through your node. You can control your friends, you cannot control friends of your friends. So we might consider that, _in the case of Freenet_, F2F is P2P, it's just extremely more difficult to censor.
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