Now I'm a bit cross with you, Per Backman -
- remembering that it was you who wrote about those Swedish ISP
unwillingness, I now have to see that:
> Neither Telia nor Tele2 refuse to inform about DNS, none of them are very
> good at information though. SBBS is the other extreme, you can not access
> their pages without being informed abou t the DNS adress.
>
> I have just found the paper I got from Tele2, when I had an account there,
> it co ntains User-ID, password, User-ID and password for email,
> pop-server, domainname, nameserver (DNS), newsserver (NNTP) and
> SMTP-server.
What the heck do you want more, and would you need more ?!
If you go to the shop at the corner to buy a sausage,
you need to know:
1. if the sausage contains beef or not (BSE risk)
2. if the sausage contains gelatine (=beef) or not (BSE risk)
3. what the difference is between "preferably to be used before (date)"
or "to be used until (date)"
- a matter of life and death with certain consumeables -
4. if the sausage contains GMO soja or not
5. if the sausage contains sugar or not
6. what the fifteen various "E (605/xxx)" conservation agents mean
(and what allergies they could provoke)
7. what "antioxidant ac&!@#bq-acid metaphybthene" means
8. if there is garlic in it and/or (no) green (irradiated/or not) pepper
9. if you plastic-money card has still some credit on it, and
10. its PIN no. (16 positions with the latest upgraded security model)
11. if your 7-year old daughter would like the smell of it, maybe
eventual would even accept to eat it.
Now tell me why an ISP (they want your money though, anyway) would not
want to tell about:
1. the local dial-in tel-no
2. the user-ID they propose to you
3. the choice of a password
4. the login procedure (PPP; or what else?)
5. the DNS(s) to use with them
6. the mail(box) server's address (for SMTP and perhaps POP3, if they
are different)
7. if ever available with their service, the usenet server's address
(NNTP)
And more is not needed.
Well, that's at least three info-points less than for a (possibly) sugar
sweetened Swedish sausage (not to speak of the "pommes frites" where
you wouldn't have a *chance* to get the real thing, and none at all for
a label about the irradiated/GMO yes/no vaccuum-dried potato flake
prepared mashed-fried-machine-ondulated paste either).
And let's forget about the "senap" for the moment (for non-Swedes: a
chemical mixture looking like, but not resembling to anything near,
mustard; definitely incompatible with continental paste-on'n'munch).
Heimo Claasen / <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / Brussels 1999-03-30
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