On Friday, Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:
] I have never tried v. 3 what's the diffrence? I've been to their site
] several times and it always said that v. 3 required win95 (it said 3.1 now
] so I'll bet it'll work with 3.11 as well).
v3 can be used under w95, but it is still providing a 16 bit stack.
(IMHO) I think it was for people who still wanted to run 16 bit
internet apps that didn't like the w95 dialler.
] Actually I wonder why software
] companys specify Windows95 and 98 and just say DOS. Wouldn't it be more
] natural to list *all* the DOS versions (rather lengthy list) that work or
] only list one of each "OS"?
You've lost me. Are you saying that companies are saying "needs W9x"
but really need DOS. eg the soundblaster driver/initialiser that was
discussed a few days ago???
] >The trumpet directory does have to be in the path (according to its
] >help; I never tried without it), so it can find the winsock.dll file
] >properly.
]
] Help? Who reads that (as long as things work)? I read the help in ex.
] Basic, Pascal and C and that's it <G>.
I mean, it says in the window that comes up with "you must add the
trumpet directory to your path statement" or something.
] Just copy the winsock.dll file to
] either the windows directory or the system directory and it'll work (not
] that I've ever tried putting it in the system dir but it usually works for
] other DLL files).
But what if you have more than one winsock file? [Well, I dont]. I
try to keep as little sh-tuff in my windows directory as possible. I
found more than 2MB of files in the system directory from a version
of IE I thought I deleted a YEAR ago. And I've installed 3.11 from
scratch since then. Wonder how that got there?
] But I didn't have WinSock.Dll there to start with when I ran the
] installation program (it came along with Netscape 1.2 on a floppy from my
] first ISP).
Isn't winsock.dll dialler-dependant? Or is this in the days when NS
came with a dialler?
] >Arachne was even easier/faster: took only DNS, phone number, username
] >and password to work. (A little more fiddling to get it to my liking,
] >but I can do it really fast now :)
]
] That's the only information that Trumpet requires as well (+ com/"slip" port)
Yeah, but the places to put it is hidden in weird places: some in the
File menu, others in the Dial menu. Then you have to go back and
configure PPP with PAP since I forgot to do it and experienced a
failed login. Arachne much easier.
] I haven't been able to get Arachne online (but a program that I download
] the last time I complained on the arachne list didn't find Com2 (I've even
] tried to move the modem to Com1 and run without mouse) - but another did so
] I'm once again lost on what to do).
Its probably something simple. :-( But I know the arachne list has
been thinking about your problem for ages.
] But they'll need to give out the same information. "Automatic installation"
] don't work in any Windows 9x version (or NT) - atleast not for anyone that
] I know. (I have already complained about this in other posts so I'll stop now).
All a lot of ISPs give out is the phone number, username and
password. eg I rang up (1800 number) tech support to get my DNS
addresses, and he was hesitant to give it to me. But when I said
"trumpet" he gave them to me as soon as he found them. (He was
expecting me to run ShivaPPP which can get the 'dynamic' DNS) Two
months later a friend joined the same ISP and he called the same
number (to get the DNS so as to run with linux) and they had changed
address, so I changed mine. [I think because the local number just
got its very own server]
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