Kieth:
How nice of you to post (see below) the accurate remarks of mine. As you can 
see, it says "MANY" urchins on this site. It does not say "ALL" on this site 
are urchins. I have respect for those who strive to make this site productive 
and you tops the list.
It is unfortunate that in your earnestness you have inadvertently included 
yourself in that list of "many urchins". You even took step to include others 
in the list!
When I say urchins in this site, it does not mean all of those who come on this 
site are urchins.
Sure those who concentrate on arguing on personal issues are urchins. Of 
course, personal attacks do appear frequently in this site. So, I openly said 
there are some urchins here. If we are matured people, we should not waste our 
time ( and others time) on personal attacks!
We all are interested to see BD issues discussed and we are here to learn from 
those who know things (BD) better than us. Is it not a waste of time and 
efforts to attack one another on personal basis?  I called such people urchins. 
I did not mean they are bad, but just urchins who do not know how they are 
wasting their (and others') time and energy. They are just like inexperienced 
kids! That is all to it!   
Now, I prefer not to fall into the same trap. Instead, let me go along learning 
more about BD from other ones who are NOT urchins in this site (the ones who 
are learned and experienced ones).  Hope this makes those who are not urchins 
in this site happy.
If anyone in this site feels that he or she falls into the category of learned 
ones, then, my observation does not apply to them, and so, they should not be 
concerned and hence, they would ignore useless things and get along with their 
productive work. On the other hand, if any one feels my observations and 
remarks directly apply to their activities,  then, is it not time for them to 
look into themselves?
I decide NOT to waste other peoples' time any more. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Addison 
  To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: Shukrainternationals 
  Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [biofuel] EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks


  chandra_the_good wrote, getting it all wrong as usual:

  >On the lighter side of the issue though:
  >Once, by mistake, I placed a statement (below) on this site (while 
  >trying to send it to a friend of mine privately): It said, "you 
  >know, Tom, this site is crowed with urchins, so, don't worry....".
  >Now, I feel was not wrong after all!!  :).
  >Now, again, this on the lighter side of life please  :) - It means 'smile'.

  First it wasn't this "site" (list), it was the Biofuels-biz list. 
  Second, you've misquoted yourself - this is what you said:

  "Tom:
  I see a response from David Teal to your posting on the web. I suggest you
  just ignore it and continue with our project.  As I said, these are many
  urchins on that web site and we should try to stay above them.
  -Chandra"

  This was in response to several posts that questioned an original 
  post which that person (Tom) subsequently withdrew, with apologies. 
  Your "urchins", which included me and others along with David Teal, 
  have all contributed a great deal to the biofuels movement, whereas 
  if you've contributed anything at all except snide comments that you 
  then slide away from when challenged, and requests for other people 
  to do your homework for you, it's remarkably invisible.

  At the time, all concerned refrained from stirring the issue up any 
  further by challenging you over this as you deserved. They showed 
  restraint - unlike you, here and now. Typical chandra_the_good, 
  pretending to be promoting peace, sweetness and light and pouring oil 
  on troubled waters, but in fact just insulting people, and the whole 
  list, and trying to stir it up. You just don't realise how 
  transparent you are, Chandra, but everyone else can see it. I know 
  that because many of them tell me so off-list.

  So, no sliding away this time, explain yourself please. Response 
  required, on-list, and make it snappy.

  Keith Addison
  Moderator



  >  ----- Original Message -----
  >  From: Tee
  >  To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
  >  Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 5:58 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [biofuel] EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks
  >
  >
  >  Sad what this list has come too. Name calling and put downs the tools of
  >  small minded people.
  >
  >  The article is being reported by many sources and if you feel it needs to
  >  be debunked.
  >  Then by all means have at it.
  >



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