well I myself think simbian rocks.
win mobile, well from what I hear it crashes like no one's business.
On that note wander why  no one has designed something around a linux distro, 
ubuntu, maybe nvda and something else.
could probably work to.
and you could run linux apps on your mobile.
At 10:35 a.m. 2/03/2010, you wrote:
>I suspect everyone on that list has already signed. He needs to get the word 
>out through additional channels without trying to guilt trip the reader into 
>signing it. Frankly though, I don't think there will be much luck. A telecomm 
>company that has hundreds of thousands of customers doesn't care about a 
>thousand blind people, no matter how angry they get. Just look at what 
>Microsoft is doing to Windows Mobile; yanking the rug out from under everyone 
>with no regards to keeping products like MobileSpeak functional. Why petition? 
>Microsoft obviously doesn't give a flip, and neither do these guys.
>As much as I like MobileSpeak and especially Mobile Geo, I'll be banking on 
>the Android platform in a few years when both WM and Simbian are dead.
>On 3/1/2010 3:39 PM, Onj wrote:
>>you're not head of a large blindy organisation, though.  And though I agree 
>>with your standpoint, to a point, if I ask you, will you sign instead?  I'm 
>>asking as someone who, unless Loadstone really decides to do something 
>>useful, will have no GPS undder his platform.  You have Mobile Geo and you 
>>are lucky for that, however it shall be a cold day in hell I switch to 
>>Windows smart.  Especially with all the incredibly um, interesting? changes 
>>they are trying to implement at this time.
>>So, ignoring that message, which to be fair the guy did have a point, he 
>>wasn't saying it to individuals but to large organisations, please sign it. I 
>>can't ask more than that really.
>>From: Stephen Clower <>
>>on Monday, March 01, 2010 7:20 PM
>>>So... he wants more signatures, but the only way he feels he can get
>>>them is to insult everybody? I won't sign now simply because of the
>>>author's attitude, despite his good intentions.
>>>On 3/1/2010 2:12 PM, Onj wrote:
>>>>I haven't seen a message on this list for months.  Why not let the
>>>>content of this message speak for itself?
>>>>From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <>
>>>>on Monday, March 01, 2010 6:02 PM
>>>>>A quick note to all of you who have, and those who as of yet have not
>>>>>the WFA user protest site.
>>>>>Before I start my message the link right here and now is
>>>>>Firstly, a note to all of you who have signed, thank you, but I have
>>>>>to at
>>>>>this stage say that it is way too few who have made this effort. We are
>>>>>nearing 700, yet for Vodafone to take this seriously we need thousands.
>>>>>To date we've not even got close to even the number of users of the
>>>>>application signing, let alone additional support.
>>>>>Can I especially ask those of you who either work with or for the
>>>>>organizations that supposedly represent us as blind folk, yes you
>>>>>lot, those
>>>>>of you at the RNIB, CNIB, AFB, NFB, etc, etc, you lot really have
>>>>>made me
>>>>>rather upset and irritated.
>>>>>To date I've posted two messages via each of your web-sites informing
>>>>>all of our protest, has any one of you got back to me to ask for more
>>>>>detail, have you mass mailed your members, have you lobbied in our
>>>>>have you, no sir. Is this an outrage, is this a complete lack of
>>>>>when it comes to supporting those who you claim to represent? This
>>>>>individual thinks so. So if you represent, or have a contact at your
>>>>>blind organization please forward this message, we, or certainly I,
>>>>>am very,
>>>>>very disappointed in you all.
>>>>>As for those private individuals who have not yet signed, even if you
>>>>>do not
>>>>>own Access or a Symbian phone, your name should be on this list, the
>>>>>says something about who we are and what we stand for as blind folks, it
>>>>>says that we will not lay down and be ignored whilst our tools to
>>>>>and mobility are stolen from us. It says we have a voice and we are
>>>>>to use it when necessary.
>>>>>This protest is about more than just Wayfinder Access, it is a
>>>>>symbol, now
>>>>>please, I urge you all, we need this link spreading, we need it sharing,
>>>>>Face Book pages, Twitter, those of you who produce pod casts, mailing
>>>>>etc, etc, if you believe in your freedom to mobility and your rights to
>>>>>accessible products then make your mark.
>>>>>More than this, those you know need to say that they too are in
>>>>>support of
>>>>>our cause, so get your address book and forward this link,
>>>>>personalize it
>>>>>with a few lines of message, get the word out there.
>>>>>The protest site has a league table on it at the bottom of the public
>>>>>signatures page, it's dynamic and countries move about on the list.
>>>>>To date
>>>>>we've only had a tiny portion of blind people around the world sign up.
>>>>>Spread the word folks.
>>>>>This issue rests squarely in your hands, make a difference today...
>>>>>Neil Barnfather.
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