hmph. thought symbian was opensource. oh well what exactly will we all use after all that goes away. not that I care much there will probably be for the forseeable future old phones mine still works. I suppose we will have to use all the broken windows and simlinux systems then. android looks promising though the google nexus was a joke really was. Its a pitty we can't just have a version of win7 or xp on a mobile. Its a shame that the only phone that is mac is an iphone. Would like to have hmm a mac powerphone imagine what cool things I would be able to do with that. At 10:54 a.m. 2/03/2010, you wrote: >Given what's out there right now, it can't be done. Platforms are very, very >different, and a lot of what products like Orca or NVDA need to operate aren't >present on handsets. Android is based on Linux, by the way. A screen reader is >in the works, and while it's not very useful now, it may be great given >another year or two of development. Nokia is abandoning Simbian as we all know >it in loo of a Linux/Simbian hybrid which is just as broken as Windows Phone 7 >will be > >Steve > > >On 3/1/2010 4:51 PM, shaun everiss wrote: >>hmph. >>well I myself think simbian rocks. >>win mobile, well from what I hear it crashes like no one's business. >>On that note wander why no one has designed something around a linux distro, >>ubuntu, maybe nvda and something else. >>could probably work to. >>and you could run linux apps on your mobile. >>At 10:35 a.m. 2/03/2010, you wrote: >> >>>I suspect everyone on that list has already signed. He needs to get the word >>>out through additional channels without trying to guilt trip the reader into >>>signing it. Frankly though, I don't think there will be much luck. A >>>telecomm company that has hundreds of thousands of customers doesn't care >>>about a thousand blind people, no matter how angry they get. Just look at >>>what Microsoft is doing to Windows Mobile; yanking the rug out from under >>>everyone with no regards to keeping products like MobileSpeak functional. >>>Why petition? Microsoft obviously doesn't give a flip, and neither do these >>>guys. >>> >>>As much as I like MobileSpeak and especially Mobile Geo, I'll be banking on >>>the Android platform in a few years when both WM and Simbian are dead. >>> >>>Steve >>> >>> >>>On 3/1/2010 3:39 PM, Onj wrote: >>> >>>>you're not head of a large blindy organisation, though. And though I agree >>>>with your standpoint, to a point, if I ask you, will you sign instead? I'm >>>>asking as someone who, unless Loadstone really decides to do something >>>>useful, will have no GPS undder his platform. You have Mobile Geo and you >>>>are lucky for that, however it shall be a cold day in hell I switch to >>>>Windows smart. Especially with all the incredibly um, interesting? changes >>>>they are trying to implement at this time. >>>>So, ignoring that message, which to be fair the guy did have a point, he >>>>wasn't saying it to individuals but to large organisations, please sign it. >>>>I can't ask more than that really. >>>> >>>>From: Stephen Clower<[email protected]> >>>>on Monday, March 01, 2010 7:20 PM >>>> >>>> >>>>>So... he wants more signatures, but the only way he feels he can get >>>>>them is to insult everybody? I won't sign now simply because of the >>>>>author's attitude, despite his good intentions. >>>>> >>>>>Steve >>>>> >>>>>On 3/1/2010 2:12 PM, Onj wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I haven't seen a message on this list for months. Why not let the >>>>>>content of this message speak for itself? >>>>>> >>>>>>From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav<[email protected]> >>>>>>on Monday, March 01, 2010 6:02 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>A quick note to all of you who have, and those who as of yet have not >>>>>>>signed >>>>>>>the WFA user protest site. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Before I start my message the link right here and now is >>>>>>>www.talknav.com/protest >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Firstly, a note to all of you who have signed, thank you, but I have >>>>>>>to at >>>>>>>this stage say that it is way too few who have made this effort. We are >>>>>>>nearing 700, yet for Vodafone to take this seriously we need thousands. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>To date we've not even got close to even the number of users of the >>>>>>>application signing, let alone additional support. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Can I especially ask those of you who either work with or for the >>>>>>>organizations that supposedly represent us as blind folk, yes you >>>>>>>lot, those >>>>>>>of you at the RNIB, CNIB, AFB, NFB, etc, etc, you lot really have >>>>>>>made me >>>>>>>rather upset and irritated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>To date I've posted two messages via each of your web-sites informing >>>>>>>you >>>>>>>all of our protest, has any one of you got back to me to ask for more >>>>>>>detail, have you mass mailed your members, have you lobbied in our >>>>>>>favour, >>>>>>>have you, no sir. Is this an outrage, is this a complete lack of >>>>>>>competence >>>>>>>when it comes to supporting those who you claim to represent? This >>>>>>>individual thinks so. So if you represent, or have a contact at your >>>>>>>local >>>>>>>blind organization please forward this message, we, or certainly I, >>>>>>>am very, >>>>>>>very disappointed in you all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>As for those private individuals who have not yet signed, even if you >>>>>>>do not >>>>>>>own Access or a Symbian phone, your name should be on this list, the >>>>>>>list >>>>>>>says something about who we are and what we stand for as blind folks, it >>>>>>>says that we will not lay down and be ignored whilst our tools to >>>>>>>freedom >>>>>>>and mobility are stolen from us. It says we have a voice and we are >>>>>>>prepared >>>>>>>to use it when necessary. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This protest is about more than just Wayfinder Access, it is a >>>>>>>symbol, now >>>>>>>please, I urge you all, we need this link spreading, we need it sharing, >>>>>>>Face Book pages, Twitter, those of you who produce pod casts, mailing >>>>>>>lists >>>>>>>etc, etc, if you believe in your freedom to mobility and your rights to >>>>>>>accessible products then make your mark. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>More than this, those you know need to say that they too are in >>>>>>>support of >>>>>>>our cause, so get your address book and forward this link, >>>>>>>personalize it >>>>>>>with a few lines of message, get the word out there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The protest site has a league table on it at the bottom of the public >>>>>>>signatures page, it's dynamic and countries move about on the list. >>>>>>>To date >>>>>>>we've only had a tiny portion of blind people around the world sign up. >>>>>>>Spread the word folks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>www.talknav.com/protest >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This issue rests squarely in your hands, make a difference today... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Regards. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Neil Barnfather. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>Access mailing list >>>>>>>[email protected] >>>>>>>http://wfusers.com/mailman/listinfo/access >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: >>>>>>>eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ >>>>>>>and >>>>>>>Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Did you miss a message? 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