Hey, Lou.

You can download and upgrade to WE 9.1 from the AI Squared site. I don't
know if the problems you are experiencing were addressed in the upgrade, but
I thought you should know.

Take care,
Lou N.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal....@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of gosselin_louis via Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:57 AM
To: 'Jim Grimsby JR.'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Trying to make Notepad say the first and last characterson a
line, using the Home and End keys

OK.  I've bitten the bullet and have installed Win-Eyes 9.0.  And imagine
that, it now seems that the Home and End keys do indeed seem to work as
desired!

That's just great, but in this version there seem to be oh, so many new
problems.  For instance, now when I open an email in Outlook 2013, I hear a
clanging sound, but can't read the text.  What's up with that?  Well, don't
know what I did, but now speech is back, and I'm able to edit my response
for this posting.  Very strange!

Louis



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Grimsby JR. [mailto:jgrim...@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 5:10 PM
To: 'gosselin_louis'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Trying to make Notepad say the first and last characters on a
line, using the Home and End keys

Is the notepad set file loaded?  When you start notepad.  As I said before
this cursor key is defined and works here.


-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner....@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of gosselin_louis via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 7:28 AM
To: 'Chris Grabowski'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Jeff Weiss'
Subject: RE: Trying to make Notepad say the first and last characters on a
line, using the Home and End keys

Chris,

I don't understand what you're saying.  Are you saying you have duplicated
my experience on your Windows 8.1 system?  I'm not running Windows 8.1, but
Windows 7.  But if you're telling me that I'm not alone, perhaps that means
the problem is an oversight by the Win-eyes folks, and perhaps a solution
will be forthcoming?

Louis



-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint....@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:09 AM
To: Jeff Weiss; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Trying to make Notepad say the first and last characters on a
line, using the Home and End keys

Hi,
Creative way to work around the issue.
I have duplicated the end key in Notepad issue under Windows 8.1.

Thanks,
Chris


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-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared....@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Jeff Weiss via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:15 PM
To: gosselin_louis; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Trying to make Notepad say the first and last characters on a
line, using the Home and End keys

This works for me with notepad and the end key:

With notepad loaded:
control backslash to enter WE control panel

arrow down to cursor keys
right arrow to open
downarrow to keys
tab to show program button and press spacebar select the end key first
action execute hot key first action info mouse to focus second action
execute hotkey second action info mouse prior character save settings

hth,
Jeff Weiss


-----Original Message-----
From: gosselin_louis via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:40 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Trying to make Notepad say the first and last characters on a
line,using the Home and End keys

This may well be the reason I've always hated Notepad, and why I always try
to make far more use of MS Word.  I have no trouble in wird setting up the
described responses with the Home and End cursoring keys.  In word, the
Cursoring key adjustments are set up so that when I press the home key on
any line in the document, I hear the first letter on that line, and when I
press the End key, I likewise hear the last character of the current line.

In Notepad, however, the Home key works in that same manner, but pressing
the End key yields no sound at all, and that's regardless of the selected
"First Action" setting, which is the #3 of the 20 or so possible selections,
and which matches the setting in Word. The Second Action" response is also
set to "Undefined".  The cursoring key settings are all "global".

Even if I try setting the first action setting for the End key to "say
line", I still hear nothing.  Any good ideas out there about what I might
have done?  I'd like to make better use of Notepad, because Word is so rich
in disruptable settings that can force you to spend hours tracking down
problems with formatting.

Louis Gosselin



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