ahh, the "eyes" have it after all, which I completely agree with that
safe way.
Pride, and all that, but . . . when push comes to shove, I don't think I
want to be shoved off the cliff without the eyes that have the advantage.
:)

-- 
Curtis Delzer <[email protected]>

On Wed, 25 May 2016 14:29:57 -0400
Chris Skarstad via Talk <[email protected]> wrote:

>          Hi Rod
> 
> 
> I do believe we're just gonna play it safe, and go with the sighted person 
> working eyes route.  I don't know if I fully trust the system restore way, 
> because that would mean I'd have to install a few other programs, and I'd 
> like to avoid that if at all possible.
> 
> I'll let you guys know how it goes.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/25/2016 12:29 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > My gut tells me to do a system restore back to the time just after Norton
> > was installed, and proceed to uninstall it then.
> > This wayk, you have a full installation of Norton to work with.
> > Another choice, if you don't like the system restore idea, is to install
> > Norton again from the web, again, with the goal of having a full
> > installation.
> > Of course, the removal tool should work just fine, and I've used it myself,
> > since it is very powerful.
> > However, my advice comes from my experience of the bad old days when it was
> > necessary to ensure a program was fully installed before you were able to
> > uninstall it successfully.
> > As for your Winamp playlist editor problem, I'd be happy to talk with you
> > via Skype or telephone, if you'd like help.
> > Simply write to me off list.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Rod
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> > Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
> > Sent: May 25, 2016 11:10 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: using the norton removal tool and ridding myself of Norton
> > internetsecurity
> >
> >               Hey Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > I have another idea that I might investigate as well. I have a sighted
> > friend who might be willing to do a remote session with me and he may be
> > able to read the captcha that way.  I hate when these programs download this
> > extra stuff you don't want or need. To me, it should be a hell of a lot
> > easier to uninstall these programs. If norton insists on having a captcha
> > built into their installer, it should have an audio challenge button so that
> > blind people can listen, and get the job done a whole lot faster. It's
> > embarassing enough to ask for help, let alone having downloaded something
> > you didn't even need to. Outside of that, I have to say this new system is
> > running very nicely!  Window-eyes is still not reading a few things like
> > some text areas, and the Winamp playlist editor still remains to be silent,
> > but I have people looking into that.
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/25/2016 9:20 AM, Chris Grabowski wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> Best advice is to get a set of eyes to run the Norton removal utility.
> >> Antivirus programs do some things that prevent programs like revo
> > uninstaller to completely remove them.  It makes sense actually. You
> > wouldn't want a virus to easily remove Norton.
> >>
> >> Window-Eyes Product Support
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> >> (802) 362-3612
> >> www.aisquared.com
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Talk
> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:29 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: using the norton removal tool and ridding myself of
> >> Norton internetsecurity
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't currently have the plugin but I can get it for sure.  I don't
> >> believe that would work though, because remember, Firefox has to be
> >> running and in focus for the plugin to do its work, so I don't know if
> >> that would do the job.
> >>
> >>      The  removal tool is a separate program that you download and run
> >> completely separate from Firefox.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/24/2016 11:20 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
> >>> Do you have Firefox? You could try using the Webvisum add on for
> >>> Firefox to help you solve the CAPTCHA.
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:42 PM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: using the norton removal tool and ridding myself of Norton
> >>> internetsecurity
> >>>
> >>> Hi folks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Well, I've gotten myself in quite a bind here, and I  don't quite know
> >>> what to do next.   A few nights ago, I downloaded a program that had
> >>> other software bundled with it, and one of the programs was Norton
> >>> Internet security, this is of course a trial version. I didn't want
> >>> it on my system so I ran a little program I use called Revo Uninstaller.
> >>> Most times, it can remove programs and go a bit deeper and remove
> >>> some registry entries and other files left over, without being
> >>> destructive to other programs.  With some programs, though, it has to
> >>> run the program's original installer. Can you guys see where this is
> >>> going?  I was somehow able to get the program to uninstall from my
> >>> system, but not completely though.  Unfortunately there are no
> >>> entries for it in the listing for programs and features, and after
> >>> Revo Uninstaller ran and did the best job it could, unfortunately, it
> >>> removed the entry for Norton Internet security.  I looked in
> >>> c:\program files\(x86)
> >>>
> >>>     and found the following folders.   Norton Internet security, and
> >>> Norton Installer.  I looked inside the folders, especially norton
> >>> installer thinking there was a way to uninstall it from there, but no
> >>> dice.  So I dit a bit of research and found out that Norton has a
> >>> removal tool. I downloaded it and ran it and agreed to the license
> >>> agreement, but when I got to the next screen, ...I was greeted with a
> >>> security check screen with a captcha that I absolutely, positively
> >>> can not solve no matter what.  Does anyone have any idea about how I
> >>> can figure out how to get past this captcha in some way, or am I
> >>> going to have to rely on a pare of working eyes to get past this?
> >>> Alternatively, do you guys think it would be safe for me to delete
> >>> the 2 folders in question?  I did a bit of checking and it looks as
> >>> if Norton, in its infinite wissdom has disabled Windows defender, and
> >>> there's no way to re-enable it until I can get Norton off my system.
> >>> Like I say, I never actually meant to download the program but it
> >>> came bundled with something else and I've no idea how to rid myself
> >>> of it. I don't want to do anything destructive, as this is a brand new
> > machine running
> >>>       Windows 10.  Hopefully, one of you guys will have some answers.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> I have to say I feel kind of embarassed about this one.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
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