Hello Brenda. I personally like using the laptop layout because I feel
like I get the best of both worlds this way. I can still use the
standard number pad hot keys to drive Jaws while having access to both
the caps lock key as my Jaws key and a whole set of hot keys which don't
require me to remove my fingers from the home row if I don't want to.
For example, while using the laptop layout, I can hold down the caps
lock key and press U, I, or O for prior, current, and next line, J, K,
and L for prior, current, and next word. I can do a whole lot more but
this is just one small example. Even though I use the laptop keyboard
layout, I still have access to the Insert key from the number pda, I.E.
the 0 key. I can do all the same functions from there as well. So, yes,
like I said, best of both worlds.
I hope this helps.
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On 5/25/2017 12:32 PM, Brenda via Talk wrote:
I may have missed the initial message or got confused with the various
replies.
In order to use caps lock as the Jaws key do you have to turn laptop
mode on?
Once laptop mode is on, can you still use the insert as the Jaws key and
the numpad for navigation?
If true, it seems like laptop mode is more versitile than desktop mode.
If not, what do I have to do to have the caps lock and insert key both
funcgtion as the Jaws key?
Thanks
Brenda
On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:
Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state,
all you need to do is press it twice quickly.
I hope that helps.
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On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:
Hi Raul,
I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default
Jaws key now. I do have one question Is it possible to turn on
caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off. Now, it says
nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher
pitch. Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but I
am not sure why it is no longer working.
This is really strange! I went out of my email and when I
alt-tabbed, or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the
alt-Caps-Lock combo accidently instead. Guess what! Alt-Caps-Lock
sets and says the state of the Caps-Lock. Go figure! So, is it
supposed to be alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the Caps-Lock?
Pressing the Caps-Lock key now works just like the insert key used
to. I believe someone indicated there were times I should press it
twice, but I don't remember why. I just hope the setting stays
whenever it is necessary to restart Jaws, since I don't know how it
got this way. I like it like this.
Take care,
Carol
On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by
pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys
along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really
works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out of
the alt-tab order.
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Raul A. Gallegos
Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions
Voice and Text: 832.554.7285
Office: 832.639.4477
Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com
Work Email: train...@rgats.com
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On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching a
desktop keyboard setting to laptop setting, it might be worthhwhile
to make sure Jaws is in the alt-tab setting. Trying to use the
capslock key to get into the Jaws setting was very tempramental for
me. It only worked on a very few occasions and I did try many
times to use it. I am certain there was some operator error, but
even I can't have messed up that badly, LOL!
Carol, happily using my insert key!
On 5/23/2017 10:39 AM, Ed Culpepper via Talk wrote:
I have not tried the laptop layout. I will check out that
possibility. I have not loaded Jaws on my laptop yet, but I
certainly will be doing so. I can anticipate that using the same
keyboard layout on both my desktop and laptop could be
advantageous. Using the same keystrokes regardless of which
computer I am using seems more simple and efficient.
Thanks for the suggestion and link.
Ed Culpepper
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From: Joseph Norton [mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:04 PM
To: Ed Culpepper; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
Hi:
Have you tried the laptop layout?
Here is a link to a set of mp3 files describing it. This is also
available in a DAISY book through FS Reader. Here is the link;
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/LaptopKeysWithJAWS.zip
Hope this helps.
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From: Ed Culpepper via Talk <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
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To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
Greeting WE Migrants -
I am learning Jaws navigational keystrokes as I migrate from
beloved WE to
Jaws. Using the insert key as a primary Jaws modifier key is very
awkward
for me. On my keyboard the insert key is the top left key on the
so-called
"6-pack" of keys located just above the arrow keys. The Jaws
command to
begin "Say All" (like WE "Read to End") is Insert-down arrow. That
requires
an awkward contortion of my right hand or an inconvenient reach
with my left
hand for the insert key as I press the down arrow with my right
hand. Other
navigational commands use the insert key as the modifier with keys
that are
usually typed with fingers on the right hand. I am finding these
keystroke
combinations to be frustrating.
Obviously Jaws users have been using this illogical keystroke
combination
for years. I must be missing something about how to do so
efficiently. I
have read about altering navigational keystrokes in Jaws, but I
don't want
to have to redesign the whole set of them. Bottom line is that I
have a
couple of questions:
1. Is there some alternative to the insert key as a primary
modifier key for
navigational keystrokes in Jaws? The WE Control-Alt combination
with a
single letter key was much more ergonomically efficient. To
longtime Jaws
users: I am looking to you for help or encouragement for the
insert key
awkwardness - any help?
2. Can I reprogram my computer or Windows 10 to recognize some key
of my
choosing to function as an additional insert key? For example,
could I
sacrifice the Control key on the left side of my keyboard to
become an
insert key to use as a modifier with keys typically typed with my
right
hand?
I hope that I am not obsessing over what turns out with experience
manipulating Jaws to be simply a curious quirk for a new user. Any
help will
be appreciated.
Many thanks -
Ed Culpepper
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