Hi,

I am a complete outsider regarding the licensing debate (and, to be
honest, to the whole OSM project... I barely started mapping a few
hiking trails).

That being said, here is the main thing I wonder about :

**Is the license change a real choice or a kind of legal obligation ?**

The reason I ask is because, by looking at this thread, I feel like some
people view it as important, and others see how depressing it is for the
mapping community... But do we have the choice ?

If the move is for pure theoretical, GNU/Stallman-like ideology, then it
is likely to create way more damage than it would save. 
However, if the move is about saving the project from a legal
perspective, then it's probably better to start tackling the issue now
rather than having a court shut down the project 5 years from now when
most of the planet is mapped...

regards,
Sami Dalouche

On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 03:46 +1000, John Smith wrote:
> On 19 July 2010 03:36, SteveC <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Why? Because the project is growing very fast and attracting more data all 
> > the time. If Google or Nearmap don't want to play ball that's fine - just 
> > look at the hundreds of other companies and organisations that do, like 
> > Bing and MapQuest's announcements at SOTM for example.
> 
> Nearmap isn't dictating any terms, other than you can only use their
> data under a share alike license so no need to lump them in with
> Google. However I have a fairly good idea how much information has
> been added in regional areas that wouldn't exist otherwise.
> 
> > I agree it might be bad in the short term that we lose some aerial imagery 
> > (but I posit that would only happen because you give nearmap the impression 
> > that the community will do whatever they say, if you ask them to join us 
> > from the position that this is the direction we're going, I posit they 
> > would be more positive). But in the longer term I guarantee we'll have lots 
> > of other sources of data and imagery. It will be a temporary setback, even 
> > if it happens.
> 
> You go on and on about how if 50% disappear wait a short time and
> it'll magically appear within a short period of time, I call BS, if
> the tiger data was dumped from OSM how long exactly would it take to
> regather it? How demoralising would it be on the people that fixed up
> the tiger data? Combined with people that don't respond or don't agree
> it would set the Aussie community back to the stone age effectively,
> and it will actively turn away new contributors because they won't
> want the same thing to happen to their efforts.
> 
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