On 19 July 2010 10:18, John Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > On 19 July 2010 09:04, Richard Weait <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't recall seeing the nice folks from NearMap posting on this > > thread. I do recall an assertion from another poster that NearMap is > > firm on the map data being Share-Alike, as is will be under ODbL. But > > no quotations attributed to NearMap, nor posts from them here. I > > think it does a disservice to NearMap to presume that anybody other > > than their staff speak for them. > I'll emailed them privately and asked them just like anyone else can, > I didn't ask to republish their email but even if you don't believe me > their current terms spell out their current position, that is a share > alike license like CC-by-SA
As John has, quite correctly, been polite enough not to share Stuart Nixon's email reply with the list, here it is below (release approved by Stuart): "NearMap is keen to continue to support OSM with our PhotoMaps (noting that in the future we will be expanding to Europe and other areas). As our PhotoMaps are central to our business, we can only offer them under a CC-BY-SA (or similar) license, and the license must preserve this (e.g. not take away these rights at a later date). It is critical to us that the license is Share Alike, so it must be CC-BY-SA style, not CC-BY style." In a separate email (to Liz Dodd, cc John), Stuart added: "We are watching what is going on with some concern. I'm not sure what we will do if OSM splinters; as you may know there are already other groups working on street maps, and we don't support them as we would rather work with a single open community. Perhaps you could contact Yahoo to see what their view is on where OSM is going; I would guess they would have similar requirements to ourselves. If OSM became aware of the issues a non-CC-BY-SA style license, or one that can change in the future, causes for commercial groups trying to support OSM, then perhaps they can tune the process to continue to encourage commercial support. It is worth noting that in the longer term NearMap plans to cover much more of the world's population, and we do hope we can continue to work with OSM." It's probably also worth quoting from our Copyright and Credits page ( http://www.nearmap.com/legal/copyright), which sets out our point of view: "Copyrights and credits We hope you enjoy using our website and our PhotoMaps. We’ve worked very hard to bring them to you. Use of the NearMap website and PhotoMaps is governed by our licence terms</products/licence> and community guidelines </products/community-guidelines>. You may also refer to our Terms of Use </legal/terms-of-use> for other related information. From this publication date, our website and all the images and PhotoMaps are copyrighted works that belong to NearMap Pty Ltd. [image: CC-BY-SA] <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/>We specifically encourage creation of Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike (CC-BY-SA) <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/> licensed information derived from our PhotoMap content, so that everyone can share and build a greater understanding of our planet. Credit where it is due! In creating this website, we are very grateful for the additional information from the following sources, which is provided subject to their respective copyrights and licences. OpenStreetMap We support the sharing of information and knowledge. “OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/> is an editable map of the whole world. It is made by people like you. OpenStreetMap<http://www.openstreetmap.org/> allows you to view, edit and use geographical data in a collaborative way from anywhere on Earth. OpenStreetMap creates and provides free geographic data such as street maps to anyone who wants them. The project was started because most maps you think of as free actually have legal or technical restrictions on their use, holding back people from using them in creative, productive, or unexpected ways.” — Source: http://www.openstreetmap.org Visit OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/> to take part in the collaboration or read more about OSM, their disclaimers and applicable terms of use. <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki>" You can also take it as read that many of us here at NearMap are enthusiastic mappers and OSM contributors. We're also working hard on ways to allow more people to more easily contribute data to OSM. Cheers Ben -- Ben Last Development Manager (HyperWeb) NearMap Pty Ltd
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