Would specifying that the new license must be not just open/free but specifically an SA-like license in contributor agreement solve this particular issue? ODBL looks like SA in spirit. Further changing of licenses could be a separate discussion, when/if there's a new need.
Michael. On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Ben Last <[email protected]> wrote: > On 19 July 2010 10:18, John Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 19 July 2010 09:04, Richard Weait <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I don't recall seeing the nice folks from NearMap posting on this >> > thread. I do recall an assertion from another poster that NearMap is >> > firm on the map data being Share-Alike, as is will be under ODbL. But >> > no quotations attributed to NearMap, nor posts from them here. I >> > think it does a disservice to NearMap to presume that anybody other >> > than their staff speak for them. >> I'll emailed them privately and asked them just like anyone else can, >> I didn't ask to republish their email but even if you don't believe me >> their current terms spell out their current position, that is a share >> alike license like CC-by-SA > > > As John has, quite correctly, been polite enough not to share Stuart > Nixon's email reply with the list, here it is below (release approved by > Stuart): > > "NearMap is keen to continue to support OSM with our PhotoMaps (noting > that in the future we will be expanding to Europe and other areas). > > As our PhotoMaps are central to our business, we can only offer them > under a CC-BY-SA (or similar) license, and the license must preserve > this (e.g. not take away these rights at a later date). It is > critical to us that the license is Share Alike, so it must be CC-BY-SA > style, not CC-BY style." > > In a separate email (to Liz Dodd, cc John), Stuart added: > > "We are watching what is going on with some concern. I'm not sure what > we will do if OSM splinters; as you may know there are already other > groups working on street maps, and we don't support them as we would > rather work with a single open community. > > Perhaps you could contact Yahoo to see what their view is on where OSM > is going; I would guess they would have similar requirements to > ourselves. If OSM became aware of the issues a non-CC-BY-SA style > license, or one that can change in the future, causes for commercial > groups trying to support OSM, then perhaps they can tune the process > to continue to encourage commercial support. > > It is worth noting that in the longer term NearMap plans to cover much > more of the world's population, and we do hope we can continue to work > with OSM." > > It's probably also worth quoting from our Copyright and Credits page ( > http://www.nearmap.com/legal/copyright), which sets out our point of view: > > "Copyrights and credits > > We hope you enjoy using our website and our PhotoMaps. We’ve worked very > hard to bring them to you. > > Use of the NearMap website and PhotoMaps is governed by our licence > terms<http://products/licence> > and community guidelines <http://products/community-guidelines>. You may > also refer to our Terms of Use <http://legal/terms-of-use> for other > related information. From this publication date, our website and all the > images and PhotoMaps are copyrighted works that belong to NearMap Pty Ltd. > > [image: CC-BY-SA] <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/>We > specifically encourage creation of Creative Commons Attribution Share > Alike (CC-BY-SA) <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/> licensed > information derived from our PhotoMap content, so that everyone can share > and build a greater understanding of our planet. > Credit where it is due! > > In creating this website, we are very grateful for the additional > information from the following sources, which is provided subject to their > respective copyrights and licences. > OpenStreetMap > > We support the sharing of information and knowledge. > > “OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/> is an editable map of the > whole world. It is made by people like you. > OpenStreetMap<http://www.openstreetmap.org/> allows > you to view, edit and use geographical data in a collaborative way from > anywhere on Earth. > > OpenStreetMap creates and provides free geographic data such as street maps > to anyone who wants them. The project was started because most maps you > think of as free actually have legal or technical restrictions on their use, > holding back people from using them in creative, productive, or unexpected > ways.” > > — Source: http://www.openstreetmap.org > > Visit OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/> to take part in the > collaboration or read more about OSM, their disclaimers and applicable > terms of use. <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki>" > You can also take it as read that many of us here at NearMap are > enthusiastic mappers and OSM contributors. We're also working hard on ways > to allow more people to more easily contribute data to OSM. > > Cheers > Ben > > -- > Ben Last > Development Manager (HyperWeb) > NearMap Pty Ltd > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > >
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