Myself I'm still holding out for a phaser, settable to "stun".

Rich / ICN-RTC7 Champaign


On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Lampson, Mike <mlamp...@rowva.k12.il.us>wrote:

> I too do not hunt like I used to but I would fight anyone who tries to take
> away that right.  Remember it was the ability of the population to fight
> that kept the Japanese from trying to land on our soil.  Too many men and
> women have fought and died to protect the rights some want to take away.
>
> Mike Lampson
> Rowva
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:43 AM, <rkas...@valmeyerk12.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jim, you hit the nail on the head.
>>
>> While I don't hunt as much as I used to, I still enjoy a few days a year.
>>  My dad and grandpa always told me "if you shoot it, you had better be
>> prepared to eat it".
>>
>> I agree that nobody should be allowed to go into a show and buy an AR-15
>> (M16) or AK-47 especially with no background check.  Those guns have no
>> purpose except to kill people.  Those types of weapons are not for
>> self-defense either.  They are strictly a military assault weapon, even if
>> they are semi-auto.  In most cases that are illegal to use as hunting rifles
>> because they have no knockdown power to speak of.
>>
>> I had an AR-15 at one time and took it mule deer hunting in New Mexico.
>>  The guide told me "you're gonna need a bigger gun, son".  The state didn't
>> allow hunting with anything less than .30 caliber.
>>
>>
>> Quoting Jim Flanagan <jhflana...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>  I am a self avowed Chicago-Liberal and recovering Cub fan. However my
>>> views
>>> on gun control have moderated over the last few years.
>>>
>>> Every year my wife and I spend a lot of time on Beaver Island in Michigan
>>> (Going back up in about a week again ;-) ). On B.I. about 90% of the year
>>> round residents hunt. Mostly because they depend on hunting to help to
>>> feed
>>> their families. The carpenter who I have hired on and off for the last
>>> two
>>> years while we finish the house is a real backwoodsman (He has no running
>>> water, off the grid and about 2 miles down a singletrack of a dirt road).
>>> He
>>> builds muskets, he has built some from scratch - including drilling the
>>> barrel. They are beautiful weapons. He eats anything he hunts including
>>> squirrels and he is dismissive of the off-islanders who come to BI just
>>> looking for a trophy. As you might imagine he and I have had some
>>> wing-ding
>>> discussions about gun rights.
>>>
>>> But, on BI every person, even my backwoods friend is really part of a
>>> community and they do not have the sense of isolation we find today in
>>> most
>>> of our high schools and in many communities. The person I mentioned is
>>> against gun control, but only because he has come to believe that all gun
>>> control efforts are also aimed at his hunting & hobby guns. In our
>>> discussions I find that we have remarkable common ground. I see no reason
>>> for the government to control or limit his use of firearms and he sees no
>>> reason to allow a person to go into gunshow and with no background check
>>> buy
>>> enough guns to arm a street gang. Or for most people in the US to own an
>>> advanced military weapons.
>>>
>>> I'd be happy if we could somehow make it harder for people to make a
>>> profit
>>> selling to felons and to be sure anyone buying a gun is well trained in
>>> it's
>>> use.
>>>
>>> jim
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Ekhoff, Andrew <aekh...@sags.k12.il.us
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  It's a matter of time before America follows Europe and Australia and
>>>> controls guns so tightly it hardly makes it worth owning one.  In the
>>>> meantime, I personally have started collecting.  I am an avid hunter,
>>>> leaving for Wyoming tonight for a trip, and I would have little to look
>>>> forward to without it.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Ekhoff
>>>> Technology Coordinator
>>>> St. Anne Public Schools
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:
>>>> tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dan Ragen
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:48 AM
>>>> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Shot Fired at University of Texas
>>>>
>>>> Guys:
>>>>
>>>> I do not believe in gun control, I don't think you can control guns.
>>>> I feel that if someone wants a gun bad enough they will get one, no
>>>> matter
>>>> what the laws are.  If you don't want to own a gun, fine, I don't care,
>>>> but
>>>> I should have the right and anybody should have the right to own gun.
>>>>  Not
>>>> necessarily combat type weapons.  But I like to shoot and hunt, I had
>>>> guns
>>>> since I was 7 years old.  I also started driving then, by myself.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Williams, Scott <
>>>> sco...@fisher.k12.il.us>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > We need extremely tight gun control so no one can legally have a gun.
>>>> >
>>>> > Chicago is the best example of this and  is a leader in Gun Control.
>>>> We
>>>> should all  buck-up and get in line.
>>>> >
>>>> > We better OT this thread soon.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > SCott
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ________________________________________
>>>> > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
>>>> > [tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of JimHays
>>>> > [hay...@sages.us]
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:29 AM
>>>> > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>>>> > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Shot Fired at University of Texas
>>>> >
>>>> > If you want something other than a bumper sticker or a sound bite then
>>>> > you are talking about finding a LEADER and not a POLITICIAN.
>>>> > Unfortunately, over the years these two terms have almost become
>>>> > mutually exclusive.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > mchonto wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jim,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     Well said. I do believe the issues of guns and violence is a very
>>>> >> complex issue that does not lend itself to bumper sticker solutions
>>>> >> or
>>>> >> 30 second sound bites. Also a possible solution for Chicago may not
>>>> >> be appropriate for Ajo, AZ.  I wish our leaders of all political
>>>> >> stripes would do more thinking and rational discussion on this and
>>>> >> many more important issues than grandstanding. Too much to hope for I
>>>> am
>>>> afraid.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Mike
>>>> >>
>>>> >
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