I am a self avowed Chicago-Liberal and recovering Cub fan. However my views on gun control have moderated over the last few years.
Every year my wife and I spend a lot of time on Beaver Island in Michigan (Going back up in about a week again ;-) ). On B.I. about 90% of the year round residents hunt. Mostly because they depend on hunting to help to feed their families. The carpenter who I have hired on and off for the last two years while we finish the house is a real backwoodsman (He has no running water, off the grid and about 2 miles down a singletrack of a dirt road). He builds muskets, he has built some from scratch - including drilling the barrel. They are beautiful weapons. He eats anything he hunts including squirrels and he is dismissive of the off-islanders who come to BI just looking for a trophy. As you might imagine he and I have had some wing-ding discussions about gun rights. But, on BI every person, even my backwoods friend is really part of a community and they do not have the sense of isolation we find today in most of our high schools and in many communities. The person I mentioned is against gun control, but only because he has come to believe that all gun control efforts are also aimed at his hunting & hobby guns. In our discussions I find that we have remarkable common ground. I see no reason for the government to control or limit his use of firearms and he sees no reason to allow a person to go into gunshow and with no background check buy enough guns to arm a street gang. Or for most people in the US to own an advanced military weapons. I'd be happy if we could somehow make it harder for people to make a profit selling to felons and to be sure anyone buying a gun is well trained in it's use. jim On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Ekhoff, Andrew <aekh...@sags.k12.il.us>wrote: > It's a matter of time before America follows Europe and Australia and > controls guns so tightly it hardly makes it worth owning one. In the > meantime, I personally have started collecting. I am an avid hunter, > leaving for Wyoming tonight for a trip, and I would have little to look > forward to without it. > > Andy > > Andrew Ekhoff > Technology Coordinator > St. Anne Public Schools > aekh...@sags.k12.il.us > SAGS: (815) 427-8153 > SACHS: (815) 427-8141 > > -----Original Message----- > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto: > tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dan Ragen > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:48 AM > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Shot Fired at University of Texas > > Guys: > > I do not believe in gun control, I don't think you can control guns. > I feel that if someone wants a gun bad enough they will get one, no matter > what the laws are. If you don't want to own a gun, fine, I don't care, but > I should have the right and anybody should have the right to own gun. Not > necessarily combat type weapons. But I like to shoot and hunt, I had guns > since I was 7 years old. I also started driving then, by myself. > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Williams, Scott <sco...@fisher.k12.il.us> > wrote: > > We need extremely tight gun control so no one can legally have a gun. > > > > Chicago is the best example of this and is a leader in Gun Control. We > should all buck-up and get in line. > > > > We better OT this thread soon. > > > > > > SCott > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org > > [tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of JimHays > > [hay...@sages.us] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:29 AM > > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Shot Fired at University of Texas > > > > If you want something other than a bumper sticker or a sound bite then > > you are talking about finding a LEADER and not a POLITICIAN. > > Unfortunately, over the years these two terms have almost become > > mutually exclusive. > > > > > > > > mchonto wrote: > >> > >> Jim, > >> > >> Well said. I do believe the issues of guns and violence is a very > >> complex issue that does not lend itself to bumper sticker solutions > >> or > >> 30 second sound bites. Also a possible solution for Chicago may not > >> be appropriate for Ajo, AZ. I wish our leaders of all political > >> stripes would do more thinking and rational discussion on this and > >> many more important issues than grandstanding. Too much to hope for I am > afraid. > >> > >> Mike > >> > > > > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | Subscription info > > | at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > > > > > > -- > Daniel E. Ragen > District Technology Coordinator > Dupo CUSD 196 > 600 Louisa Ave > Dupo, IL 62239 > Phone - 618-286-3214 x2141 > dra...@dupo.stclair.k12.il.us > > ''Life's tough ... it's even tougher if you're stupid." > - John Wayne > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > -- Jim Flanagan 4439 N. California Chicago, Il 60625 773 463-5494 Chicago 773 396-4638 cell 231 448-2109 Beaver Island *Privacy Notice:* The information contained in this electronic message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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