Thanks Jim, you hit the nail on the head.
While I don't hunt as much as I used to, I still enjoy a few days a
year. My dad and grandpa always told me "if you shoot it, you had
better be prepared to eat it".
I agree that nobody should be allowed to go into a show and buy an
AR-15 (M16) or AK-47 especially with no background check. Those guns
have no purpose except to kill people. Those types of weapons are not
for self-defense either. They are strictly a military assault weapon,
even if they are semi-auto. In most cases that are illegal to use as
hunting rifles because they have no knockdown power to speak of.
I had an AR-15 at one time and took it mule deer hunting in New
Mexico. The guide told me "you're gonna need a bigger gun, son". The
state didn't allow hunting with anything less than .30 caliber.
Quoting Jim Flanagan <jhflana...@gmail.com>:
I am a self avowed Chicago-Liberal and recovering Cub fan. However my views
on gun control have moderated over the last few years.
Every year my wife and I spend a lot of time on Beaver Island in Michigan
(Going back up in about a week again ;-) ). On B.I. about 90% of the year
round residents hunt. Mostly because they depend on hunting to help to feed
their families. The carpenter who I have hired on and off for the last two
years while we finish the house is a real backwoodsman (He has no running
water, off the grid and about 2 miles down a singletrack of a dirt road). He
builds muskets, he has built some from scratch - including drilling the
barrel. They are beautiful weapons. He eats anything he hunts including
squirrels and he is dismissive of the off-islanders who come to BI just
looking for a trophy. As you might imagine he and I have had some wing-ding
discussions about gun rights.
But, on BI every person, even my backwoods friend is really part of a
community and they do not have the sense of isolation we find today in most
of our high schools and in many communities. The person I mentioned is
against gun control, but only because he has come to believe that all gun
control efforts are also aimed at his hunting & hobby guns. In our
discussions I find that we have remarkable common ground. I see no reason
for the government to control or limit his use of firearms and he sees no
reason to allow a person to go into gunshow and with no background check buy
enough guns to arm a street gang. Or for most people in the US to own an
advanced military weapons.
I'd be happy if we could somehow make it harder for people to make a profit
selling to felons and to be sure anyone buying a gun is well trained in it's
use.
jim
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Ekhoff, Andrew
<aekh...@sags.k12.il.us>wrote:
It's a matter of time before America follows Europe and Australia and
controls guns so tightly it hardly makes it worth owning one. In the
meantime, I personally have started collecting. I am an avid hunter,
leaving for Wyoming tonight for a trip, and I would have little to look
forward to without it.
Andy
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From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:
tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dan Ragen
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:48 AM
To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Shot Fired at University of Texas
Guys:
I do not believe in gun control, I don't think you can control guns.
I feel that if someone wants a gun bad enough they will get one, no matter
what the laws are. If you don't want to own a gun, fine, I don't care, but
I should have the right and anybody should have the right to own gun. Not
necessarily combat type weapons. But I like to shoot and hunt, I had guns
since I was 7 years old. I also started driving then, by myself.
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Williams, Scott <sco...@fisher.k12.il.us>
wrote:
> We need extremely tight gun control so no one can legally have a gun.
>
> Chicago is the best example of this and is a leader in Gun Control. We
should all buck-up and get in line.
>
> We better OT this thread soon.
>
>
> SCott
>
>
>
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> If you want something other than a bumper sticker or a sound bite then
> you are talking about finding a LEADER and not a POLITICIAN.
> Unfortunately, over the years these two terms have almost become
> mutually exclusive.
>
>
>
> mchonto wrote:
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Well said. I do believe the issues of guns and violence is a very
>> complex issue that does not lend itself to bumper sticker solutions
>> or
>> 30 second sound bites. Also a possible solution for Chicago may not
>> be appropriate for Ajo, AZ. I wish our leaders of all political
>> stripes would do more thinking and rational discussion on this and
>> many more important issues than grandstanding. Too much to hope for I am
afraid.
>>
>> Mike
>>
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