I too do not hunt like I used to but I would fight anyone who tries to take
away that right.  Remember it was the ability of the population to fight
that kept the Japanese from trying to land on our soil.  Too many men and
women have fought and died to protect the rights some want to take away.

Mike Lampson
Rowva

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:43 AM, <rkas...@valmeyerk12.org> wrote:

> Thanks Jim, you hit the nail on the head.
>
> While I don't hunt as much as I used to, I still enjoy a few days a year.
>  My dad and grandpa always told me "if you shoot it, you had better be
> prepared to eat it".
>
> I agree that nobody should be allowed to go into a show and buy an AR-15
> (M16) or AK-47 especially with no background check.  Those guns have no
> purpose except to kill people.  Those types of weapons are not for
> self-defense either.  They are strictly a military assault weapon, even if
> they are semi-auto.  In most cases that are illegal to use as hunting rifles
> because they have no knockdown power to speak of.
>
> I had an AR-15 at one time and took it mule deer hunting in New Mexico.
>  The guide told me "you're gonna need a bigger gun, son".  The state didn't
> allow hunting with anything less than .30 caliber.
>
>
> Quoting Jim Flanagan <jhflana...@gmail.com>:
>
>  I am a self avowed Chicago-Liberal and recovering Cub fan. However my
>> views
>> on gun control have moderated over the last few years.
>>
>> Every year my wife and I spend a lot of time on Beaver Island in Michigan
>> (Going back up in about a week again ;-) ). On B.I. about 90% of the year
>> round residents hunt. Mostly because they depend on hunting to help to
>> feed
>> their families. The carpenter who I have hired on and off for the last two
>> years while we finish the house is a real backwoodsman (He has no running
>> water, off the grid and about 2 miles down a singletrack of a dirt road).
>> He
>> builds muskets, he has built some from scratch - including drilling the
>> barrel. They are beautiful weapons. He eats anything he hunts including
>> squirrels and he is dismissive of the off-islanders who come to BI just
>> looking for a trophy. As you might imagine he and I have had some
>> wing-ding
>> discussions about gun rights.
>>
>> But, on BI every person, even my backwoods friend is really part of a
>> community and they do not have the sense of isolation we find today in
>> most
>> of our high schools and in many communities. The person I mentioned is
>> against gun control, but only because he has come to believe that all gun
>> control efforts are also aimed at his hunting & hobby guns. In our
>> discussions I find that we have remarkable common ground. I see no reason
>> for the government to control or limit his use of firearms and he sees no
>> reason to allow a person to go into gunshow and with no background check
>> buy
>> enough guns to arm a street gang. Or for most people in the US to own an
>> advanced military weapons.
>>
>> I'd be happy if we could somehow make it harder for people to make a
>> profit
>> selling to felons and to be sure anyone buying a gun is well trained in
>> it's
>> use.
>>
>> jim
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Ekhoff, Andrew <aekh...@sags.k12.il.us
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  It's a matter of time before America follows Europe and Australia and
>>> controls guns so tightly it hardly makes it worth owning one.  In the
>>> meantime, I personally have started collecting.  I am an avid hunter,
>>> leaving for Wyoming tonight for a trip, and I would have little to look
>>> forward to without it.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> Andrew Ekhoff
>>> Technology Coordinator
>>> St. Anne Public Schools
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:
>>> tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dan Ragen
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:48 AM
>>> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Shot Fired at University of Texas
>>>
>>> Guys:
>>>
>>> I do not believe in gun control, I don't think you can control guns.
>>> I feel that if someone wants a gun bad enough they will get one, no
>>> matter
>>> what the laws are.  If you don't want to own a gun, fine, I don't care,
>>> but
>>> I should have the right and anybody should have the right to own gun.
>>>  Not
>>> necessarily combat type weapons.  But I like to shoot and hunt, I had
>>> guns
>>> since I was 7 years old.  I also started driving then, by myself.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Williams, Scott <
>>> sco...@fisher.k12.il.us>
>>> wrote:
>>> > We need extremely tight gun control so no one can legally have a gun.
>>> >
>>> > Chicago is the best example of this and  is a leader in Gun Control.
>>> We
>>> should all  buck-up and get in line.
>>> >
>>> > We better OT this thread soon.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > SCott
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________________
>>> > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
>>> > [tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of JimHays
>>> > [hay...@sages.us]
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:29 AM
>>> > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>>> > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Shot Fired at University of Texas
>>> >
>>> > If you want something other than a bumper sticker or a sound bite then
>>> > you are talking about finding a LEADER and not a POLITICIAN.
>>> > Unfortunately, over the years these two terms have almost become
>>> > mutually exclusive.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > mchonto wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Jim,
>>> >>
>>> >>     Well said. I do believe the issues of guns and violence is a very
>>> >> complex issue that does not lend itself to bumper sticker solutions
>>> >> or
>>> >> 30 second sound bites. Also a possible solution for Chicago may not
>>> >> be appropriate for Ajo, AZ.  I wish our leaders of all political
>>> >> stripes would do more thinking and rational discussion on this and
>>> >> many more important issues than grandstanding. Too much to hope for I
>>> am
>>> afraid.
>>> >>
>>> >> Mike
>>> >>
>>> >
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