Seems like you and your friend have given reasonable people something to
think about. And the extremes to scream about. I think there was a book
a few years ago called the 2% Solution. The author gave many examples of
common ground on many issues that most people say they could accept and
get behind.
Mike Chontofalsky
Jim Flanagan wrote:
I am a self avowed Chicago-Liberal and recovering Cub fan. However my
views on gun control have moderated over the last few years.
Every year my wife and I spend a lot of time on Beaver Island in
Michigan (Going back up in about a week again ;-) ). On B.I. about 90%
of the year round residents hunt. Mostly because they depend on
hunting to help to feed their families. The carpenter who I have hired
on and off for the last two years while we finish the house is a real
backwoodsman (He has no running water, off the grid and about 2 miles
down a singletrack of a dirt road). He builds muskets, he has built
some from scratch - including drilling the barrel. They are beautiful
weapons. He eats anything he hunts including squirrels and he is
dismissive of the off-islanders who come to BI just looking for a
trophy. As you might imagine he and I have had some wing-ding
discussions about gun rights.
But, on BI every person, even my backwoods friend is really part of a
community and they do not have the sense of isolation we find today in
most of our high schools and in many communities. The person I
mentioned is against gun control, but only because he has come to
believe that all gun control efforts are also aimed at his hunting &
hobby guns. In our discussions I find that we have remarkable common
ground. I see no reason for the government to control or limit his use
of firearms and he sees no reason to allow a person to go into gunshow
and with no background check buy enough guns to arm a street gang. Or
for most people in the US to own an advanced military weapons.
I'd be happy if we could somehow make it harder for people to make a
profit selling to felons and to be sure anyone buying a gun is well
trained in it's use.
jim
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Ekhoff, Andrew
<aekh...@sags.k12.il.us <mailto:aekh...@sags.k12.il.us>> wrote:
It's a matter of time before America follows Europe and Australia
and controls guns so tightly it hardly makes it worth owning one.
In the meantime, I personally have started collecting. I am an
avid hunter, leaving for Wyoming tonight for a trip, and I would
have little to look forward to without it.
Andy
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Guys:
I do not believe in gun control, I don't think you can control guns.
I feel that if someone wants a gun bad enough they will get one,
no matter what the laws are. If you don't want to own a gun,
fine, I don't care, but I should have the right and anybody should
have the right to own gun. Not necessarily combat type weapons.
But I like to shoot and hunt, I had guns since I was 7 years old.
I also started driving then, by myself.
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Williams, Scott
<sco...@fisher.k12.il.us <mailto:sco...@fisher.k12.il.us>> wrote:
> We need extremely tight gun control so no one can legally have a
gun.
>
> Chicago is the best example of this and is a leader in Gun
Control. We should all buck-up and get in line.
>
> We better OT this thread soon.
>
>
> SCott
>
>
>
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> If you want something other than a bumper sticker or a sound
bite then
> you are talking about finding a LEADER and not a POLITICIAN.
> Unfortunately, over the years these two terms have almost become
> mutually exclusive.
>
>
>
> mchonto wrote:
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Well said. I do believe the issues of guns and violence is
a very
>> complex issue that does not lend itself to bumper sticker solutions
>> or
>> 30 second sound bites. Also a possible solution for Chicago may not
>> be appropriate for Ajo, AZ. I wish our leaders of all political
>> stripes would do more thinking and rational discussion on this and
>> many more important issues than grandstanding. Too much to hope
for I am afraid.
>>
>> Mike
>>
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