My sup't is in IMRF. --Michael T. Bendorf-- Technology Administrator A-C Central C.U.S.D. #262 Google Voice: 217.408.0043
"I'm trying to teach myself to ask the same questions that you do during your lectures so that I do not need you any more." A good teacher is like a candle - it consumes itself to light the way for others. "The computer revolution hasn't started yet. Don't be misled by the enormous flow of money into bad defacto standards for unsophisticated buyers using poor adaptations of incomplete ideas." - Alan Kay On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Jim Flanagan <jhflana...@gmail.com> wrote: > They left certified school administrator of that list. Is their supt. > really in IMRF? > > Jim > > Sent from my iPad > Cell 773.396.4638 > Chicago 773.463.5494 > Beaver Island 231.448.2109 > > Privacy Notice: The information contained in this electronic message is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is > addressed. This message is private and may contain information that is > privileged, confidential and/or inside information and exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. 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Please contact the sender by reply > e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message > > On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:34 AM, "Williams, Scott" <sco...@fisher.k12.il.us> > wrote: > > > Sorry I grabbed the wrong thread (I hate OWA) > > > > Here's my 2 ยข > > > > http://www.harlemft.org/retirement.html > > > > Soctt > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [ > tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Jim Flanagan [ > jhflana...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:20 AM > > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List > > Cc: Tech-Geeks Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] CT: TRS/ IMRF - Was OT - Illinois TGs Hacking > Professional Development forthe Autodidact > > > > The rules about who has to or does not have to be in the union are more a > case of relationships between the union and negotiations. If your admin and > union pull together as they should then the fact that an exempt employee has > a skill and certificate that is needed for a specific group of student > should allow them to compromise. > > > > If they are always trying to shaft one another then anything is a cause > for dispute. > > > > Jim > > > > Sent from my iPad > > Cell 773.396.4638 > > Chicago 773.463.5494 > > Beaver Island 231.448.2109 > > > > Privacy Notice: The information contained in this electronic message is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is > addressed. This message is private and may contain information that is > privileged, confidential and/or inside information and exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you > are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this > communication is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender by reply > e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message > > > > On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Jared Lynn <jl...@porta202.org> wrote: > > > >> They are giving me IMRF... The problem for me is, If I ever wanted to > teach a course, I can't because A) I don't have a cert. B) If you teach a > class, then you are required to be in the teacher's union (at least in this > district). Just slightly frustrating. > >> Thanks, > >> Jared Lynn > >> PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator > >> Email: jl...@porta202.org > >> Phone: 217-501-4920 > >> > >> On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Steele, Thomas C wrote: > >> > >>> If I am not mistaken, you cannot participate in TRS unless you are in a > position that requires a certificate. I think there may be an exception for > substitute teachers since subs can get TRS credit and you do not need a > teaching certificate (though you do need a sub card). > >>> > >>> I also recall a rule that schools must offer IMRF to non-cert employees > working over a certain number of hours/year. Are they at least giving you > IMRF? > >>> > >>> Thomas C. Steele > >>> Technology Director > >>> Manteno CUSD #5 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto: > tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Jared Lynn > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:46 AM > >>> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List > >>> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] OT - Illinois TGs Hacking Professional > Development forthe Autodidact > >>> > >>> I should have made a side note: I do not have a cert nor am I allowed > to receive one if I want to stay in my current position. > >>> Thanks, > >>> Jared Lynn > >>> PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator > >>> Email: jl...@porta202.org > >>> Phone: 217-501-4920 > >>> > >>> On Oct 13, 2010, at 7:30 AM, JimHays wrote: > >>> > >>>> That is just plain wrong. Principals are not part of the teachers' > union and they are part of TRS. If you hold a valid certificate and are > employed as a certified staff member - and tech coordinators do count - then > you should be in TRS. I am not part of the teachers' union nor am I > considered an administrator per se but I am in TRS. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Jared Lynn wrote: > >>>>> When my school hired me, they told me that I couldn't pay into trs > because that would mean that I belong to the teacher union and the school > was legally advised against it. Something about I have access to much > information and could possibly harm either the administration or the teacher > union. I'm not sure which system I'd like to pay into, one that is for sure > going to go away sometime, and one that possibly might go away any day. > >>>>> > >>>>> Did any other school districts handle this in a similar fashion? > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Jared Lynn PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator > >>>>> > >>>>> jl...@porta202.org <mailto:jl...@porta202.org> > >>>>> 217-501-4920 > >>>>> On Oct 12, 2010, at 8:45 PM, "Sullivan, Terence" < > sulliv...@shiloh1.us <mailto:sulliv...@shiloh1.us>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Bill, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You can generate CPDUs by presenting - even in house. The first > time you present on a topic (ed curriculum related) you can claim 8 CPDUs, > for repeats of the SAME SESSION you can claim 3 CPDUs. A new topic/session > is again another 8 CPDUs. Keep a program listing your name and topic for > evidence. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You can generate CPDUs by being on committees. Read the rules but > if you meet 5 times a year or 8 times a year (etc) you earn X CPDUs. Keep > the agenda for evidence > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You can do Action Research to generate CPDUs; You can publish an > article to generate CPDUs. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There are many options other than seat time in a session by someone > else. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> All that said - I have the Opposite issue from you. I did all my > paperwork and documented everything and then when I tried to Certify my > CPDUs for the ROE it would not let me . I checked with the ROE and they said > I was not eligible to claim CPDUs because I had to be "EXEMPT" I have a > Type 09 and I pay TRS. I tried to argue but got no where. I even do some > independent student students and give grades ... but my ROE says I have to > be EXEMPT. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I guess it comes down to local control at the ROE and what they want > to do. My personal panic is one day I try to claim TRS retirement and they > tell me I still owe them 10 years because I was not an Active TRS member. > Enough rant but I was ticked when they would not let me certify my > certificate with the CPDUs I had. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Terry > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> *From:* tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org <mailto: > tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org> [mailto: > tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org <mailto: > tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>] *On Behalf Of *Bill Kampmeyer > >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:05 PM > >>>>>> *To:* Tech-Geeks Mailing List > >>>>>> *Subject:* [tech-geeks] OT - Illinois TGs Hacking Professional > Development forthe Autodidact > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am approaching a deadline for Continuing Ed and have very little > to show for the last five years. My Supt. does not believe in ITEC or > anything that takes me out of town during school hours so I cannot get any > formal credits without college night classes. However like all TGs I am an > autodidact.Just this month I spent about a day learning Big Blue Button, a > FLOSS GoToMeeting/GoToAssist and will be rolling out this great new service > any day now. I would have trouble fitting all of the things I have taught > myself over the last five years on five single spaced pages but I have > almost nothing formal I am turned down when I try to attend a Feast or > anything of the kind. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is there any legal way for an autodidact to turn the continuing ed > we must do ourselves to keep an ever expanding network current into ISBE > recognized continuing ed? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How do you good and clever folks fill out your ISBE continuing ed > requirements? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Gang! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> BK > >>>>>> > >>>>>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > >>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > >>>> > >>>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > >>> > >>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > >>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > >> > >> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >
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