Actually I have encountered Superintendents who have retired in TRS and in the past have insisted that their new position be IMRF so that they can double dip. I think the law change a few years ago made that no longer possible. Most of the double dipping superintendents that I now know of jump between Indiana & Illinois.
Jim On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:58 AM, JimHays <hay...@sages.us> wrote: > Are you sure? That doesn't seem right. > > > Michael T. Bendorf wrote: > >> My sup't is in IMRF. >> >> --Michael T. Bendorf-- >> Technology Administrator >> A-C Central C.U.S.D. #262 >> Google Voice: 217.408.0043 >> >> "I'm trying to teach myself to ask the same questions that you do during >> your lectures so that I do not need you any more." >> >> A good teacher is like a candle - it consumes itself to light the way for >> others. >> >> "The computer revolution hasn't started yet. Don't be misled by the >> enormous flow of money into bad defacto standards for unsophisticated buyers >> using poor adaptations of incomplete ideas." >> - Alan Kay >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Jim Flanagan <jhflana...@gmail.com<mailto: >> jhflana...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> They left certified school administrator of that list. Is their >> supt. really in IMRF? >> >> Jim >> >> Sent from my iPad >> Cell 773.396.4638 >> Chicago 773.463.5494 >> Beaver Island 231.448.2109 >> >> Privacy Notice: The information contained in this electronic >> message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity >> to which it is addressed. This message is private and may contain >> information that is privileged, confidential and/or inside >> information and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If >> you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any >> dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is >> strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender by reply e-mail and >> destroy all copies of the original message >> >> On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:34 AM, "Williams, Scott" >> <sco...@fisher.k12.il.us <mailto:sco...@fisher.k12.il.us>> wrote: >> >> > Sorry I grabbed the wrong thread (I hate OWA) >> > >> > Here's my 2 ยข >> > >> > http://www.harlemft.org/retirement.html >> > >> > Soctt >> > >> > ________________________________________ >> > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org >> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org> >> [tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org >> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>] On Behalf Of Jim >> Flanagan [jhflana...@gmail.com <mailto:jhflana...@gmail.com>] >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:20 AM >> > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List >> > Cc: Tech-Geeks Mailing List >> > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] CT: TRS/ IMRF - Was OT - Illinois TGs >> Hacking Professional Development forthe Autodidact >> > >> > The rules about who has to or does not have to be in the union >> are more a case of relationships between the union and >> negotiations. If your admin and union pull together as they should >> then the fact that an exempt employee has a skill and certificate >> that is needed for a specific group of student should allow them >> to compromise. >> > >> > If they are always trying to shaft one another then anything is >> a cause for dispute. >> > >> > Jim >> > >> > Sent from my iPad >> > Cell 773.396.4638 >> > Chicago 773.463.5494 >> > Beaver Island 231.448.2109 >> > >> > Privacy Notice: The information contained in this electronic >> message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity >> to which it is addressed. This message is private and may contain >> information that is privileged, confidential and/or inside >> information and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If >> you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any >> dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is >> strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender by reply e-mail and >> destroy all copies of the original message >> > >> > On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Jared Lynn <jl...@porta202.org >> <mailto:jl...@porta202.org>> wrote: >> > >> >> They are giving me IMRF... The problem for me is, If I ever >> wanted to teach a course, I can't because A) I don't have a cert. >> B) If you teach a class, then you are required to be in the >> teacher's union (at least in this district). Just slightly >> frustrating. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jared Lynn >> >> PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator >> >> Email: jl...@porta202.org <mailto:jl...@porta202.org> >> >> >> Phone: 217-501-4920 >> >> >> >> On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Steele, Thomas C wrote: >> >> >> >>> If I am not mistaken, you cannot participate in TRS unless you >> are in a position that requires a certificate. I think there may >> be an exception for substitute teachers since subs can get TRS >> credit and you do not need a teaching certificate (though you do >> need a sub card). >> >>> >> >>> I also recall a rule that schools must offer IMRF to non-cert >> employees working over a certain number of hours/year. Are they >> at least giving you IMRF? >> >>> >> >>> Thomas C. Steele >> >>> Technology Director >> >>> Manteno CUSD #5 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org >> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org> >> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org >> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>] On Behalf Of Jared Lynn >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:46 AM >> >>> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List >> >>> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] OT - Illinois TGs Hacking >> Professional Development forthe Autodidact >> >>> >> >>> I should have made a side note: I do not have a cert nor am I >> allowed to receive one if I want to stay in my current position. >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> Jared Lynn >> >>> PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator >> >>> Email: jl...@porta202.org <mailto:jl...@porta202.org> >> >> >>> Phone: 217-501-4920 >> >>> >> >>> On Oct 13, 2010, at 7:30 AM, JimHays wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> That is just plain wrong. Principals are not part of the >> teachers' union and they are part of TRS. If you hold a valid >> certificate and are employed as a certified staff member - and >> tech coordinators do count - then you should be in TRS. I am not >> part of the teachers' union nor am I considered an administrator >> per se but I am in TRS. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Jared Lynn wrote: >> >>>>> When my school hired me, they told me that I couldn't pay >> into trs because that would mean that I belong to the teacher >> union and the school was legally advised against it. Something >> about I have access to much information and could possibly harm >> either the administration or the teacher union. I'm not sure which >> system I'd like to pay into, one that is for sure going to go away >> sometime, and one that possibly might go away any day. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Did any other school districts handle this in a similar fashion? >> >>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>> Jared Lynn PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator >> >>>>> >> >>>>> jl...@porta202.org <mailto:jl...@porta202.org> >> <mailto:jl...@porta202.org <mailto:jl...@porta202.org>> >> >> >>>>> 217-501-4920 >> >>>>> On Oct 12, 2010, at 8:45 PM, "Sullivan, Terence" >> <sulliv...@shiloh1.us <mailto:sulliv...@shiloh1.us> >> <mailto:sulliv...@shiloh1.us <mailto:sulliv...@shiloh1.us>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Bill, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> You can generate CPDUs by presenting - even in house. The >> first time you present on a topic (ed curriculum related) you can >> claim 8 CPDUs, for repeats of the SAME SESSION you can claim 3 >> CPDUs. A new topic/session is again another 8 CPDUs. Keep a >> program listing your name and topic for evidence. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> You can generate CPDUs by being on committees. Read the >> rules but if you meet 5 times a year or 8 times a year (etc) you >> earn X CPDUs. Keep the agenda for evidence >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> You can do Action Research to generate CPDUs; You can >> publish an article to generate CPDUs. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> There are many options other than seat time in a session by >> someone else. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> All that said - I have the Opposite issue from you. I did >> all my paperwork and documented everything and then when I tried >> to Certify my CPDUs for the ROE it would not let me . I checked >> with the ROE and they said I was not eligible to claim CPDUs >> because I had to be "EXEMPT" I have a Type 09 and I pay TRS. I >> tried to argue but got no where. I even do some independent >> student students and give grades ... but my ROE says I have to be >> EXEMPT. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I guess it comes down to local control at the ROE and what >> they want to do. My personal panic is one day I try to claim TRS >> retirement and they tell me I still owe them 10 years because I >> was not an Active TRS member. Enough rant but I was ticked when >> they would not let me certify my certificate with the CPDUs I had. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Terry >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> *From:* tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org >> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org> >> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org >> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>> >> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org >> >> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org> >> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org >> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>>] *On Behalf Of *Bill >> Kampmeyer >> >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:05 PM >> >>>>>> *To:* Tech-Geeks Mailing List >> >>>>>> *Subject:* [tech-geeks] OT - Illinois TGs Hacking >> Professional Development forthe Autodidact >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I am approaching a deadline for Continuing Ed and have very >> little to show for the last five years. My Supt. does not believe >> in ITEC or anything that takes me out of town during school hours >> so I cannot get any formal credits without college night classes. >> However like all TGs I am an autodidact.Just this month I spent >> about a day learning Big Blue Button, a FLOSS >> GoToMeeting/GoToAssist and will be rolling out this great new >> service any day now. I would have trouble fitting all of the >> things I have taught myself over the last five years on five >> single spaced pages but I have almost nothing formal I am turned >> down when I try to attend a Feast or anything of the kind. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Is there any legal way for an autodidact to turn the >> continuing ed we must do ourselves to keep an ever expanding >> network current into ISBE recognized continuing ed? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> How do you good and clever folks fill out your ISBE >> continuing ed requirements? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks Gang! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> BK >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> >>>>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> >>>> >> >>>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> >>> >> >>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> >>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> >> >> >> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> > > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > -- Jim Flanagan 4439 N. 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