Are you sure?  That doesn't seem right.

Michael T. Bendorf wrote:
My sup't is in IMRF.

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On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Jim Flanagan <jhflana...@gmail.com <mailto:jhflana...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    They left certified school administrator of that list. Is their
    supt. really in IMRF?

    Jim

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    On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:34 AM, "Williams, Scott"
    <sco...@fisher.k12.il.us <mailto:sco...@fisher.k12.il.us>> wrote:

    > Sorry I grabbed the wrong thread (I hate OWA)
    >
    > Here's my 2 ยข
    >
    > http://www.harlemft.org/retirement.html
    >
    > Soctt
    >
    > ________________________________________
    > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
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    <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>] On Behalf Of Jim
    Flanagan [jhflana...@gmail.com <mailto:jhflana...@gmail.com>]
    > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:20 AM
    > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
    > Cc: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
    > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] CT: TRS/ IMRF - Was OT - Illinois TGs
    Hacking Professional Development        forthe Autodidact
    >
    > The rules about who has to or does not have to be in the union
    are more a case of relationships between the union and
    negotiations. If your admin and union pull together as they should
    then the fact that an exempt employee has a skill and certificate
    that is needed for a specific group of student should allow them
    to compromise.
    >
    > If they are always trying to shaft one another then anything is
    a cause for dispute.
    >
    > Jim
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    > On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Jared Lynn <jl...@porta202.org
    <mailto:jl...@porta202.org>> wrote:
    >
    >> They are giving me IMRF... The problem for me is, If I ever
    wanted to teach a course, I can't because A) I don't have a cert.
    B) If you teach a class, then you are required to be in the
    teacher's union (at least in this district). Just slightly
    frustrating.
    >> Thanks,
    >> Jared Lynn
    >> PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator
    >> Email: jl...@porta202.org <mailto:jl...@porta202.org>
    >> Phone: 217-501-4920
    >>
    >> On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Steele, Thomas C wrote:
    >>
    >>> If I am not mistaken, you cannot participate in TRS unless you
    are in a position that requires a certificate.  I think there may
    be an exception for substitute teachers since subs can get TRS
    credit and you do not need a teaching certificate (though you do
    need a sub card).
    >>>
    >>> I also recall a rule that schools must offer IMRF to non-cert
    employees working over a certain number of hours/year.  Are they
    at least giving you IMRF?
    >>>
    >>> Thomas C. Steele
    >>> Technology Director
    >>> Manteno CUSD #5
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> -----Original Message-----
    >>> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
    <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>
    [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
    <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>] On Behalf Of Jared Lynn
    >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:46 AM
    >>> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
    >>> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] OT - Illinois TGs Hacking
    Professional Development forthe Autodidact
    >>>
    >>> I should have made a side note: I do not have a cert nor am I
    allowed to receive one if I want to stay in my current position.
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> Jared Lynn
    >>> PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator
    >>> Email: jl...@porta202.org <mailto:jl...@porta202.org>
    >>> Phone: 217-501-4920
    >>>
    >>> On Oct 13, 2010, at 7:30 AM, JimHays wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> That is just plain wrong.  Principals are not part of the
    teachers' union and they are part of TRS.  If you hold a valid
    certificate and are employed as a certified staff member - and
    tech coordinators do count - then you should be in TRS.   I am not
    part of the teachers' union nor am I considered an administrator
    per se but I am in TRS.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Jared Lynn wrote:
    >>>>> When my school hired me, they told me that I couldn't pay
    into trs because that would mean that I belong to the teacher
    union and the school was legally advised against it. Something
    about I have access to much information and could possibly harm
    either the administration or the teacher union. I'm not sure which
    system I'd like to pay into, one that is for sure going to go away
    sometime, and one that possibly might go away any day.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Did any other school districts handle this in a similar fashion?
    >>>>> Thanks,
    >>>>> Jared Lynn PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator
    >>>>>
    >>>>> jl...@porta202.org <mailto:jl...@porta202.org>
    <mailto:jl...@porta202.org <mailto:jl...@porta202.org>>
    >>>>> 217-501-4920
    >>>>> On Oct 12, 2010, at 8:45 PM, "Sullivan, Terence"
    <sulliv...@shiloh1.us <mailto:sulliv...@shiloh1.us>
    <mailto:sulliv...@shiloh1.us <mailto:sulliv...@shiloh1.us>>> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Bill,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You can generate CPDUs by presenting - even in house.  The
    first time you present on a topic (ed curriculum related) you can
    claim 8 CPDUs, for repeats of the SAME SESSION you can claim 3
    CPDUs.  A new topic/session is again another 8 CPDUs.  Keep a
    program listing your name and topic for evidence.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You can generate CPDUs by being on committees.  Read the
    rules but if you meet 5 times a year or 8 times a year (etc) you
    earn X  CPDUs.  Keep the agenda for evidence
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You can do Action Research to generate CPDUs; You can
    publish an article to generate CPDUs.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> There are many options other than seat time in a session by
    someone else.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> All that said - I have the Opposite issue from you.   I did
    all my paperwork and documented everything and then when I tried
    to Certify my CPDUs for the ROE it would not let me . I checked
    with the ROE and they said  I was not eligible to claim CPDUs
    because I had to be "EXEMPT"    I have a Type 09 and I pay TRS.  I
    tried to argue but got no where.  I even do some independent
    student students and give grades ... but my ROE says I have to be
    EXEMPT.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I guess it comes down to local control at the ROE and what
    they want to do.  My personal panic is one day I try to claim TRS
    retirement and they tell me I still owe them 10 years because I
    was not an Active TRS member.  Enough rant but I was ticked when
    they would not let me certify my certificate with the CPDUs I had.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Terry
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
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    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> *From:* tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
    <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>
    <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
    <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>>
    [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
    <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>
    <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
    <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>>] *On Behalf Of *Bill
    Kampmeyer
    >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:05 PM
    >>>>>> *To:* Tech-Geeks Mailing List
    >>>>>> *Subject:* [tech-geeks] OT - Illinois TGs Hacking
    Professional Development forthe Autodidact
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I am approaching a deadline for Continuing Ed and have very
    little to show for the last five years.  My Supt. does not believe
    in ITEC or anything that takes me out of town during school hours
    so I cannot get any formal credits without college night classes.
     However like all TGs I am an autodidact.Just this month I spent
    about a day learning Big Blue Button, a FLOSS
    GoToMeeting/GoToAssist and will be rolling out this great new
    service any day now.  I would have trouble fitting all of the
    things I have taught myself over the last five years on five
    single spaced pages but I have almost nothing formal I am turned
    down when I try to attend a Feast or anything of the kind.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Is there any legal way for an autodidact to turn the
    continuing ed we must do ourselves to keep an ever expanding
    network current into ISBE recognized continuing ed?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> How do you good and clever folks fill out your ISBE
    continuing ed requirements?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thanks Gang!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> BK
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