They can't require you to be in the union. That's against Federal law. They can, however, require you to pay the dues if you are under a contract negotiated by that union, even if you choose not to join the union.
There is a way to teach. If you were only teaching half time or less and nobody else could be found to take the position, you can be issued a provisional vocational certificate to teach a class. Don't know all of the ins and outs but it's an avenue to research if you want or need to be able to teach. -----Original Message----- From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Jared Lynn Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:26 AM To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] CT: TRS/ IMRF - Was OT - Illinois TGs Hacking Professional Development forthe Autodidact They are giving me IMRF... The problem for me is, If I ever wanted to teach a course, I can't because A) I don't have a cert. B) If you teach a class, then you are required to be in the teacher's union (at least in this district). Just slightly frustrating. Thanks, Jared Lynn PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator Email: jl...@porta202.org Phone: 217-501-4920 On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Steele, Thomas C wrote: > If I am not mistaken, you cannot participate in TRS unless you are in a position that requires a certificate. I think there may be an exception for substitute teachers since subs can get TRS credit and you do not need a teaching certificate (though you do need a sub card). > > I also recall a rule that schools must offer IMRF to non-cert employees working over a certain number of hours/year. Are they at least giving you IMRF? > > Thomas C. Steele > Technology Director > Manteno CUSD #5 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Jared Lynn > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:46 AM > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] OT - Illinois TGs Hacking Professional > Development forthe Autodidact > > I should have made a side note: I do not have a cert nor am I allowed to receive one if I want to stay in my current position. > Thanks, > Jared Lynn > PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator > Email: jl...@porta202.org > Phone: 217-501-4920 > > On Oct 13, 2010, at 7:30 AM, JimHays wrote: > >> That is just plain wrong. Principals are not part of the teachers' union and they are part of TRS. If you hold a valid certificate and are employed as a certified staff member - and tech coordinators do count - then you should be in TRS. I am not part of the teachers' union nor am I considered an administrator per se but I am in TRS. >> >> >> Jared Lynn wrote: >>> When my school hired me, they told me that I couldn't pay into trs because that would mean that I belong to the teacher union and the school was legally advised against it. Something about I have access to much information and could possibly harm either the administration or the teacher union. I'm not sure which system I'd like to pay into, one that is for sure going to go away sometime, and one that possibly might go away any day. >>> >>> Did any other school districts handle this in a similar fashion? >>> Thanks, >>> Jared Lynn PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator >>> >>> jl...@porta202.org <mailto:jl...@porta202.org> >>> 217-501-4920 >>> On Oct 12, 2010, at 8:45 PM, "Sullivan, Terence" <sulliv...@shiloh1.us <mailto:sulliv...@shiloh1.us>> wrote: >>> >>>> Bill, >>>> >>>> >>>> You can generate CPDUs by presenting - even in house. The first time you present on a topic (ed curriculum related) you can claim 8 CPDUs, for repeats of the SAME SESSION you can claim 3 CPDUs. A new topic/session is again another 8 CPDUs. Keep a program listing your name and topic for evidence. >>>> >>>> >>>> You can generate CPDUs by being on committees. Read the rules but >>>> if you meet 5 times a year or 8 times a year (etc) you earn X >>>> CPDUs. Keep the agenda for evidence >>>> >>>> >>>> You can do Action Research to generate CPDUs; You can publish an article to generate CPDUs. >>>> >>>> >>>> There are many options other than seat time in a session by someone else. >>>> >>>> >>>> All that said - I have the Opposite issue from you. I did all my paperwork and documented everything and then when I tried to Certify my CPDUs for the ROE it would not let me . I checked with the ROE and they said I was not eligible to claim CPDUs because I had to be "EXEMPT" I have a Type 09 and I pay TRS. I tried to argue but got no where. I even do some independent student students and give grades ... but my ROE says I have to be EXEMPT. >>>> >>>> I guess it comes down to local control at the ROE and what they want to do. My personal panic is one day I try to claim TRS retirement and they tell me I still owe them 10 years because I was not an Active TRS member. Enough rant but I was ticked when they would not let me certify my certificate with the CPDUs I had. >>>> >>>> >>>> Terry >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> *From:* tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org >>>> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org> >>>> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org >>>> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>] *On Behalf Of *Bill >>>> Kampmeyer >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:05 PM >>>> *To:* Tech-Geeks Mailing List >>>> *Subject:* [tech-geeks] OT - Illinois TGs Hacking Professional >>>> Development forthe Autodidact >>>> >>>> >>>> I am approaching a deadline for Continuing Ed and have very little to show for the last five years. My Supt. does not believe in ITEC or anything that takes me out of town during school hours so I cannot get any formal credits without college night classes. However like all TGs I am an autodidact.Just this month I spent about a day learning Big Blue Button, a FLOSS GoToMeeting/GoToAssist and will be rolling out this great new service any day now. I would have trouble fitting all of the things I have taught myself over the last five years on five single spaced pages but I have almost nothing formal I am turned down when I try to attend a Feast or anything of the kind. >>>> >>>> Is there any legal way for an autodidact to turn the continuing ed we must do ourselves to keep an ever expanding network current into ISBE recognized continuing ed? >>>> >>>> >>>> How do you good and clever folks fill out your ISBE continuing ed requirements? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks Gang! >>>> >>>> >>>> BK >>>> >>>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> >>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> >> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | Subscription info > | at http://www.tech-geeks.org | | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org |
