They are giving me IMRF... The problem for me is, If I ever wanted to teach a 
course, I can't because A) I don't have a cert. B) If you teach a class, then 
you are required to be in the teacher's union (at least in this district). Just 
slightly frustrating.
Thanks,
Jared Lynn
PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator
Email: jl...@porta202.org
Phone: 217-501-4920

On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Steele, Thomas C wrote:

> If I am not mistaken, you cannot participate in TRS unless you are in a 
> position that requires a certificate.  I think there may be an exception for 
> substitute teachers since subs can get TRS credit and you do not need a 
> teaching certificate (though you do need a sub card).
> 
> I also recall a rule that schools must offer IMRF to non-cert employees 
> working over a certain number of hours/year.  Are they at least giving you 
> IMRF?
> 
> Thomas C. Steele
> Technology Director
> Manteno CUSD #5
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org 
> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Jared Lynn
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:46 AM
> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] OT - Illinois TGs Hacking Professional Development 
> forthe Autodidact
> 
> I should have made a side note: I do not have a cert nor am I allowed to 
> receive one if I want to stay in my current position.
> Thanks,
> Jared Lynn
> PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator
> Email: jl...@porta202.org
> Phone: 217-501-4920
> 
> On Oct 13, 2010, at 7:30 AM, JimHays wrote:
> 
>> That is just plain wrong.  Principals are not part of the teachers' union 
>> and they are part of TRS.  If you hold a valid certificate and are employed 
>> as a certified staff member - and tech coordinators do count - then you 
>> should be in TRS.   I am not part of the teachers' union nor am I considered 
>> an administrator per se but I am in TRS.
>> 
>> 
>> Jared Lynn wrote:
>>> When my school hired me, they told me that I couldn't pay into trs because 
>>> that would mean that I belong to the teacher union and the school was 
>>> legally advised against it. Something about I have access to much 
>>> information and could possibly harm either the administration or the 
>>> teacher union. I'm not sure which system I'd like to pay into, one that is 
>>> for sure going to go away sometime, and one that possibly might go away any 
>>> day.
>>> 
>>> Did any other school districts handle this in a similar fashion? 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jared Lynn PORTA CUSD #202 Technology Coordinator
>>> 
>>> jl...@porta202.org <mailto:jl...@porta202.org>
>>> 217-501-4920  
>>> On Oct 12, 2010, at 8:45 PM, "Sullivan, Terence" <sulliv...@shiloh1.us 
>>> <mailto:sulliv...@shiloh1.us>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Bill,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You can generate CPDUs by presenting - even in house.  The first time you 
>>>> present on a topic (ed curriculum related) you can claim 8 CPDUs, for 
>>>> repeats of the SAME SESSION you can claim 3 CPDUs.  A new topic/session is 
>>>> again another 8 CPDUs.  Keep a program listing your name and topic for 
>>>> evidence.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You can generate CPDUs by being on committees.  Read the rules but if you 
>>>> meet 5 times a year or 8 times a year (etc) you earn X  CPDUs.  Keep the 
>>>> agenda for evidence
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You can do Action Research to generate CPDUs; You can publish an article 
>>>> to generate CPDUs.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> There are many options other than seat time in a session by someone else.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All that said - I have the Opposite issue from you.   I did all my 
>>>> paperwork and documented everything and then when I tried to Certify my 
>>>> CPDUs for the ROE it would not let me . I checked with the ROE and they 
>>>> said  I was not eligible to claim CPDUs because I had to be "EXEMPT"    I 
>>>> have a Type 09 and I pay TRS.  I tried to argue but got no where.  I even 
>>>> do some independent student students and give grades ... but my ROE says I 
>>>> have to be EXEMPT.  
>>>> 
>>>> I guess it comes down to local control at the ROE and what they want to 
>>>> do.  My personal panic is one day I try to claim TRS retirement and they 
>>>> tell me I still owe them 10 years because I was not an Active TRS member.  
>>>> Enough rant but I was ticked when they would not let me certify my 
>>>> certificate with the CPDUs I had.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Terry
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> *From:* tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org 
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>>>> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org 
>>>> <mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>] *On Behalf Of *Bill Kampmeyer
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:05 PM
>>>> *To:* Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>>>> *Subject:* [tech-geeks] OT - Illinois TGs Hacking Professional Development 
>>>> forthe Autodidact
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am approaching a deadline for Continuing Ed and have very little to show 
>>>> for the last five years.  My Supt. does not believe in ITEC or anything 
>>>> that takes me out of town during school hours so I cannot get any formal 
>>>> credits without college night classes.  However like all TGs I am an 
>>>> autodidact.Just this month I spent about a day learning Big Blue Button, a 
>>>> FLOSS GoToMeeting/GoToAssist and will be rolling out this great new 
>>>> service any day now.  I would have trouble fitting all of the things I 
>>>> have taught myself over the last five years on five single spaced pages 
>>>> but I have almost nothing formal I am turned down when I try to attend a 
>>>> Feast or anything of the kind.  
>>>> 
>>>> Is there any legal way for an autodidact to turn the continuing ed we must 
>>>> do ourselves to keep an ever expanding network current into ISBE 
>>>> recognized continuing ed?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> How do you good and clever folks fill out your ISBE continuing ed 
>>>> requirements?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Gang!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> BK
>>>> 
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