So why is Goog evil? What are they cramming down everyone's throat? I would agree they were kind of bullied by China, but hey, a billion consumers might make me change my business strategy too...
And does evil=a corporate "sell-out"...because i have to tell ya, most all of us have a price we can be bought, sold and shipped for. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: > Google opened the "evil" door by parading it around constantly to put > themselves over. So if it is trite then I contend that its their own > damn fault. > > Same goes with Apple rebeling against the "evil empire"... The > Simpsons did a great bit on that a few years back with Comic Book Guy > in an Apple Store. > > On Jul 23, 2:41 pm, Carlos Pedraza <[email protected]> wrote: > > Evil is, frankly, just too trite and vague a term for any rational > discussion of the topic. I prefer to rate my experience with corporations > based on how much they display utter indifference to my satisfaction. By > that rubric, Microsoft is far more "evil" than Apple — Microsoft's entire > business model is predicated on how well it serves the priestly IT cult it > has built and nurtured throughout corporate America rather than being > motivated by the user experience of day-to-day users of their software and > products. One could argue that Microsoft has strengthened its corporate IT > position specifically by making its products opaque and so reliant on the > daily intervention of IT departments to keep their companies nominally > productive. > > > > Naturally, as Google and Apple work to democratize the use of and access > to more productive technology, Microsoft is finding that its own closed > model is rapidly becoming obsolete and irrelevant. I have many friends who > work at high positions in Microsoft development who pretty much confirm for > me that its corporate culture is antithetical to true innovation and only > encourages the type of groupthink that continues to mire down what was once > an agile if autocratic corporation. > > > > Apple, on the other hand, is mission-driven by its desire to create > pleasing, productive and useful user experiences. You can argue that it > achieves this at the cost of "openness" (itself a vague standard if what > you're aiming for is overall quality and productivity by end-users rather > than developers), but it's clear that Apple has been the thought leader in > the industry since 1984. > > > > Regards, > > /carlos > > > > -- > > C A R L O S P E D R A Z A > > [email protected] |http://www.cosmicsitcom.com > > Twitter: @cpedraza > > > > On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Edward Crosby wrote: > > > > > > > > > My point is that there will always be a "evil corporation". But, > everyone > > > will have a different opinion of who is evil. > > > Yes, I stated that I wanted that pro Android/Google t-shirt but that > > > doesn't mean I don't like Apple and consider them evil; I don't > consider > > > them or Google or Microsoft evil. My preference of "evil corporation" > is > > > my local electric company for robbing me blind every month. > > > Again, nothing is perfect. > > > > > -- > > > Have a Better One, > > > Edward Crosby > > >http://www.edwardcrosby.com > > > ----- > > > "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." > > > Merlin Mann > > > > >> I don't follow your logic. Just because something is successful I > > >> will automatically grow to dislike it? I have no problem using > > >> Microsoft, whom I supposedly "must" "hate," correct? > > > > >> I don't care about funnelling money to large corporations. I work for > > >> a Fortune 200 company, which is #1 in their business field. I do, > > >> however, have a problem with funnelling money to large corporations > > >> who turn around and then funnel money to causes which are > > >> fundamentally opposed to my principles and beliefs -- enough to be > > >> listed in the Top 10 contributors to said cause. > > > > >> If I have to pick a side in this fight, it has to be Apple, who, while > > >> evil, is sort of a benign evil -- unlike Google. I went to a dinner > > >> where a VP of Google was the keynote speaker. And to a room of > middle- > > >> aged executives and businessfolks, he railed on and on about "Don't be > > >> evil." And they're all laughing and giggling, and the whole time I am > > >> saying to myself, "You morons, he is MAKING FUN OF YOU. You are the > > >> ones he calls 'evil!'" > > > > >> And yes the irony of point that out while posting on a Google group is > > >> not lost to me. > > > > >> If MS got their act together as far as a mobile version of Windows > > >> which could supply Windows-like productivity, I am of the opinion that > > >> this market would be owned by them in a short order. One hopes that > > >> they learned their lesson with the Zune. Whether they did or not I > > >> don't know. > > > > >> On Jul 23, 1:49 pm, "Edward Crosby" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> Well, unfortunately it doesn't work that way. You could have your > wish > > >>> for > > >>> a non-politicized option but eventually that option would evolve into > > >>> something else you would be against. > > >>> It's a flawed society. Nothing is perfect. > > > > >>> -- > > >>> Have a Better One, > > >>> Edward Crosbyhttp://www.edwardcrosby.com > > >>> ----- > > >>> "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." > > >>> Merlin Mann > > > > >>>> Or some other, non-politicized, option? Yes, thank you. > > > > >>>> On Jul 23, 1:36 pm, Jennifer Walker <[email protected]> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> So we'd be stuck with Microsoft? Um... no, please. > > > > >>>>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> Maybe Apple and Google will destroy one another. > > > > >>>>>> On Jul 23, 1:02 pm, "Edward Crosby" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >>>>>>> This is pretty awesome. > > > > >>>>>>>http://bit.ly/dqxW0v > > > > >>>>>>> I'm thinking I may buy the t-shirt. > > > > >>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>> Have a Better One, > > >>>>>>> Edward Crosbyhttp://www.edwardcrosby.com > > >>>>>>> ----- > > >>>>>>> "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." > > >>>>>>> Merlin Mann > > > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >>>>> Groups > > >>>>>> "The Unique Geek" group. > > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > > >>> [email protected]. > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>>>>> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> > <theuniquegeek%2bunsubscr...@goog > > >>> legroups.com> > > >>>>>> . > > >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. > > > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> Jennifer "Scraps" Walker > > >>>>> Queen of the Helper Monkeys > > > > >>>>> Better living through creativity... and > > >>>>> cocktails!http://www.scrapsoflife.com/blog-Hidequoted text - > > > > >>>>> - Show quoted text - > > > > >>>> -- > > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >>> Groups > > >>>> "The Unique Geek" group. > > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>>> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> > . > > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en.-Hide quoted text > - > > > > >>> - Show quoted text - > > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > >> "The Unique Geek" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> > . > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "The Unique Geek" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> > . > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Unique Geek" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Unique Geek" group. 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