wow...enlightened and substantive discussion...what's that doing around here?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Carlos Pedraza <[email protected]> wrote: > Evil is, frankly, just too trite and vague a term for any rational > discussion of the topic. I prefer to rate my experience with corporations > based on how much they display utter indifference to my satisfaction. By > that rubric, Microsoft is far more "evil" than Apple — Microsoft's entire > business model is predicated on how well it serves the priestly IT cult it > has built and nurtured throughout corporate America rather than being > motivated by the user experience of day-to-day users of their software and > products. One could argue that Microsoft has strengthened its corporate IT > position specifically by making its products opaque and so reliant on the > daily intervention of IT departments to keep their companies nominally > productive. > > Naturally, as Google and Apple work to democratize the use of and access to > more productive technology, Microsoft is finding that its own closed model > is rapidly becoming obsolete and irrelevant. I have many friends who work at > high positions in Microsoft development who pretty much confirm for me that > its corporate culture is antithetical to true innovation and only encourages > the type of groupthink that continues to mire down what was once an agile if > autocratic corporation. > > Apple, on the other hand, is mission-driven by its desire to create > pleasing, productive and useful user experiences. You can argue that it > achieves this at the cost of "openness" (itself a vague standard if what > you're aiming for is overall quality and productivity by end-users rather > than developers), but it's clear that Apple has been the thought leader in > the industry since 1984. > > Regards, > /carlos > * > > * > *--* > *C A R L O S P E D R A Z A* > *[email protected] | http://www.cosmicsitcom.com* > *Twitter: @cpedraza <http://twitter.com/cpedraza>* > > > > > On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Edward Crosby wrote: > > My point is that there will always be a "evil corporation". But, everyone > will have a different opinion of who is evil. > Yes, I stated that I wanted that pro Android/Google t-shirt but that > doesn't mean I don't like Apple and consider them evil; I don't consider > them or Google or Microsoft evil. My preference of "evil corporation" is > my local electric company for robbing me blind every month. > Again, nothing is perfect. > > -- > Have a Better One, > Edward Crosby > http://www.edwardcrosby.com > ----- > "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." > Merlin Mann > > I don't follow your logic. Just because something is successful I > > will automatically grow to dislike it? I have no problem using > > Microsoft, whom I supposedly "must" "hate," correct? > > > I don't care about funnelling money to large corporations. I work for > > a Fortune 200 company, which is #1 in their business field. I do, > > however, have a problem with funnelling money to large corporations > > who turn around and then funnel money to causes which are > > fundamentally opposed to my principles and beliefs -- enough to be > > listed in the Top 10 contributors to said cause. > > > If I have to pick a side in this fight, it has to be Apple, who, while > > evil, is sort of a benign evil -- unlike Google. I went to a dinner > > where a VP of Google was the keynote speaker. And to a room of middle- > > aged executives and businessfolks, he railed on and on about "Don't be > > evil." And they're all laughing and giggling, and the whole time I am > > saying to myself, "You morons, he is MAKING FUN OF YOU. You are the > > ones he calls 'evil!'" > > > And yes the irony of point that out while posting on a Google group is > > not lost to me. > > > If MS got their act together as far as a mobile version of Windows > > which could supply Windows-like productivity, I am of the opinion that > > this market would be owned by them in a short order. One hopes that > > they learned their lesson with the Zune. Whether they did or not I > > don't know. > > > On Jul 23, 1:49 pm, "Edward Crosby" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, unfortunately it doesn't work that way. You could have your wish > > for > > a non-politicized option but eventually that option would evolve into > > something else you would be against. > > It's a flawed society. Nothing is perfect. > > > -- > > Have a Better One, > > Edward Crosbyhttp://www.edwardcrosby.com > > ----- > > "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." > > Merlin Mann > > > > > Or some other, non-politicized, option? Yes, thank you. > > > On Jul 23, 1:36 pm, Jennifer Walker <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > So we'd be stuck with Microsoft? Um... no, please. > > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: > > Maybe Apple and Google will destroy one another. > > > On Jul 23, 1:02 pm, "Edward Crosby" <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is pretty awesome. > > > http://bit.ly/dqxW0v > > > I'm thinking I may buy the t-shirt. > > > -- > > Have a Better One, > > Edward Crosbyhttp://www.edwardcrosby.com > > ----- > > "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." > > Merlin Mann > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > "The Unique Geek" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> > <theuniquegeek%2bunsubscr...@goog > > legroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. > > > -- > > Jennifer "Scraps" Walker > > Queen of the Helper Monkeys > > > Better living through creativity... and > > cocktails!http://www.scrapsoflife.com/blog-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > "The Unique Geek" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Unique Geek" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Unique Geek" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Unique Geek" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Unique Geek" group. 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