And all I was doing was announcing my love for a t-shirt. Man, this listserv is awesome.
-- Have a Better One, Edward Crosby http://www.edwardcrosby.com ----- "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." Merlin Mann > wow...enlightened and substantive discussion...what's that doing around > here? > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Carlos Pedraza <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Evil is, frankly, just too trite and vague a term for any rational >> discussion of the topic. I prefer to rate my experience with >> corporations >> based on how much they display utter indifference to my satisfaction. By >> that rubric, Microsoft is far more "evil" than Apple — Microsoft's >> entire >> business model is predicated on how well it serves the priestly IT cult >> it >> has built and nurtured throughout corporate America rather than being >> motivated by the user experience of day-to-day users of their software >> and >> products. One could argue that Microsoft has strengthened its corporate >> IT >> position specifically by making its products opaque and so reliant on >> the >> daily intervention of IT departments to keep their companies nominally >> productive. >> >> Naturally, as Google and Apple work to democratize the use of and access >> to >> more productive technology, Microsoft is finding that its own closed >> model >> is rapidly becoming obsolete and irrelevant. I have many friends who >> work at >> high positions in Microsoft development who pretty much confirm for me >> that >> its corporate culture is antithetical to true innovation and only >> encourages >> the type of groupthink that continues to mire down what was once an >> agile if >> autocratic corporation. >> >> Apple, on the other hand, is mission-driven by its desire to create >> pleasing, productive and useful user experiences. You can argue that it >> achieves this at the cost of "openness" (itself a vague standard if what >> you're aiming for is overall quality and productivity by end-users >> rather >> than developers), but it's clear that Apple has been the thought leader >> in >> the industry since 1984. >> >> Regards, >> /carlos >> * >> >> * >> *--* >> *C A R L O S P E D R A Z A* >> *[email protected] | http://www.cosmicsitcom.com* >> *Twitter: @cpedraza <http://twitter.com/cpedraza>* >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Edward Crosby wrote: >> >> My point is that there will always be a "evil corporation". But, >> everyone >> will have a different opinion of who is evil. >> Yes, I stated that I wanted that pro Android/Google t-shirt but that >> doesn't mean I don't like Apple and consider them evil; I don't consider >> them or Google or Microsoft evil. My preference of "evil corporation" is >> my local electric company for robbing me blind every month. >> Again, nothing is perfect. >> >> -- >> Have a Better One, >> Edward Crosby >> http://www.edwardcrosby.com >> ----- >> "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." >> Merlin Mann >> >> I don't follow your logic. Just because something is successful I >> >> will automatically grow to dislike it? I have no problem using >> >> Microsoft, whom I supposedly "must" "hate," correct? >> >> >> I don't care about funnelling money to large corporations. I work for >> >> a Fortune 200 company, which is #1 in their business field. I do, >> >> however, have a problem with funnelling money to large corporations >> >> who turn around and then funnel money to causes which are >> >> fundamentally opposed to my principles and beliefs -- enough to be >> >> listed in the Top 10 contributors to said cause. >> >> >> If I have to pick a side in this fight, it has to be Apple, who, while >> >> evil, is sort of a benign evil -- unlike Google. I went to a dinner >> >> where a VP of Google was the keynote speaker. And to a room of middle- >> >> aged executives and businessfolks, he railed on and on about "Don't be >> >> evil." And they're all laughing and giggling, and the whole time I am >> >> saying to myself, "You morons, he is MAKING FUN OF YOU. You are the >> >> ones he calls 'evil!'" >> >> >> And yes the irony of point that out while posting on a Google group is >> >> not lost to me. >> >> >> If MS got their act together as far as a mobile version of Windows >> >> which could supply Windows-like productivity, I am of the opinion that >> >> this market would be owned by them in a short order. One hopes that >> >> they learned their lesson with the Zune. Whether they did or not I >> >> don't know. >> >> >> On Jul 23, 1:49 pm, "Edward Crosby" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Well, unfortunately it doesn't work that way. You could have your wish >> >> for >> >> a non-politicized option but eventually that option would evolve into >> >> something else you would be against. >> >> It's a flawed society. Nothing is perfect. >> >> >> -- >> >> Have a Better One, >> >> Edward Crosbyhttp://www.edwardcrosby.com >> >> ----- >> >> "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." >> >> Merlin Mann >> >> >> >> >> Or some other, non-politicized, option? Yes, thank you. >> >> >> On Jul 23, 1:36 pm, Jennifer Walker <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> So we'd be stuck with Microsoft? Um... no, please. >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Maybe Apple and Google will destroy one another. >> >> >> On Jul 23, 1:02 pm, "Edward Crosby" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> This is pretty awesome. >> >> >> http://bit.ly/dqxW0v >> >> >> I'm thinking I may buy the t-shirt. >> >> >> -- >> >> Have a Better One, >> >> Edward Crosbyhttp://www.edwardcrosby.com >> >> ----- >> >> "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." >> >> Merlin Mann >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups >> >> "The Unique Geek" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to >> >> [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> >> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> >> <theuniquegeek%2bunsubscr...@goog >> >> legroups.com> >> >> . >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> >> Jennifer "Scraps" Walker >> >> Queen of the Helper Monkeys >> >> >> Better living through creativity... and >> >> cocktails!http://www.scrapsoflife.com/blog-Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups >> >> "The Unique Geek" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> >> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> >> . >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "The Unique Geek" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> >> . >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> "The Unique Geek" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> "The Unique Geek" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Unique Geek" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Unique Geek" group. 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