Google is trending toward evil by being insensitive or devious. They haven't been entirely open with some of the data they collect, how they collect it, or how it will be used. Their business model is built on trust; we entrust them with our data and actions through reliance on their cloud.
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote: > He stole my thunder. Microsoft has under Ballmer become too ponderous and > insulated from changing consumer tastes; they had reached the point that > they could dictate consumption because of their practical monopoly on > operating systems, but the limited focus of their strategy is going to kill > them. They missed the bus on personal media players- from all accounts the > Zune is a fine device, but it's too little too late. They flirted with media > companies, but never actually got around to devising anything like the > iTunes store; they even cut their own throats by changing DRM at one point. > Ballmer himself belittled the smart phone market about four years ago, and > again the lack of vision and strategic thinking has cost them dearly. The > Kin was DOA, and their new operating system is way behind Google and Apple. > I can't even tell you what their product is aimed at; Apple has made the > best and most stylish media consumption devices, Google has developed an > open-source OS that has spread like wildfire due to its customizability yet > it still generates revenue by steering users back to Google's primary > revenue stream- advertising. The business world is all that Microsoft has > left, but they seem to be trying to make a 'fun' device instead of focusing > on Office functionality and security. > Power plus clumsy or uncaring behavior always equals evil. Without the > power you won't be around long enough for anyone to care. Microsoft > definitely fits in the clumsy category; they missed out on several of the > past trends and released a product (yeah, I'm looking at YOU Vista) that > wasn't ready for popular consumption. You gotta dig down to energy companies > like coal mine owners or defense contractors before you find true, > dyed-in-the-wool-malicious evil. > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote: > >> wow...enlightened and substantive discussion...what's that doing around >> here? >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Carlos Pedraza <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Evil is, frankly, just too trite and vague a term for any rational >>> discussion of the topic. I prefer to rate my experience with corporations >>> based on how much they display utter indifference to my satisfaction. By >>> that rubric, Microsoft is far more "evil" than Apple — Microsoft's entire >>> business model is predicated on how well it serves the priestly IT cult it >>> has built and nurtured throughout corporate America rather than being >>> motivated by the user experience of day-to-day users of their software and >>> products. One could argue that Microsoft has strengthened its corporate IT >>> position specifically by making its products opaque and so reliant on the >>> daily intervention of IT departments to keep their companies nominally >>> productive. >>> >>> Naturally, as Google and Apple work to democratize the use of and access >>> to more productive technology, Microsoft is finding that its own closed >>> model is rapidly becoming obsolete and irrelevant. I have many friends who >>> work at high positions in Microsoft development who pretty much confirm for >>> me that its corporate culture is antithetical to true innovation and only >>> encourages the type of groupthink that continues to mire down what was once >>> an agile if autocratic corporation. >>> >>> Apple, on the other hand, is mission-driven by its desire to create >>> pleasing, productive and useful user experiences. You can argue that it >>> achieves this at the cost of "openness" (itself a vague standard if what >>> you're aiming for is overall quality and productivity by end-users rather >>> than developers), but it's clear that Apple has been the thought leader in >>> the industry since 1984. >>> >>> Regards, >>> /carlos >>> * >>> >>> * >>> *--* >>> *C A R L O S P E D R A Z A* >>> *[email protected] | http://www.cosmicsitcom.com* >>> *Twitter: @cpedraza <http://twitter.com/cpedraza>* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Edward Crosby wrote: >>> >>> My point is that there will always be a "evil corporation". But, >>> everyone >>> will have a different opinion of who is evil. >>> Yes, I stated that I wanted that pro Android/Google t-shirt but that >>> doesn't mean I don't like Apple and consider them evil; I don't consider >>> them or Google or Microsoft evil. My preference of "evil corporation" is >>> my local electric company for robbing me blind every month. >>> Again, nothing is perfect. >>> >>> -- >>> Have a Better One, >>> Edward Crosby >>> http://www.edwardcrosby.com >>> ----- >>> "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." >>> Merlin Mann >>> >>> I don't follow your logic. Just because something is successful I >>> >>> will automatically grow to dislike it? I have no problem using >>> >>> Microsoft, whom I supposedly "must" "hate," correct? >>> >>> >>> I don't care about funnelling money to large corporations. I work for >>> >>> a Fortune 200 company, which is #1 in their business field. I do, >>> >>> however, have a problem with funnelling money to large corporations >>> >>> who turn around and then funnel money to causes which are >>> >>> fundamentally opposed to my principles and beliefs -- enough to be >>> >>> listed in the Top 10 contributors to said cause. >>> >>> >>> If I have to pick a side in this fight, it has to be Apple, who, while >>> >>> evil, is sort of a benign evil -- unlike Google. I went to a dinner >>> >>> where a VP of Google was the keynote speaker. And to a room of middle- >>> >>> aged executives and businessfolks, he railed on and on about "Don't be >>> >>> evil." And they're all laughing and giggling, and the whole time I am >>> >>> saying to myself, "You morons, he is MAKING FUN OF YOU. You are the >>> >>> ones he calls 'evil!'" >>> >>> >>> And yes the irony of point that out while posting on a Google group is >>> >>> not lost to me. >>> >>> >>> If MS got their act together as far as a mobile version of Windows >>> >>> which could supply Windows-like productivity, I am of the opinion that >>> >>> this market would be owned by them in a short order. One hopes that >>> >>> they learned their lesson with the Zune. Whether they did or not I >>> >>> don't know. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 23, 1:49 pm, "Edward Crosby" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Well, unfortunately it doesn't work that way. You could have your wish >>> >>> for >>> >>> a non-politicized option but eventually that option would evolve into >>> >>> something else you would be against. >>> >>> It's a flawed society. Nothing is perfect. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Have a Better One, >>> >>> Edward Crosbyhttp://www.edwardcrosby.com >>> >>> ----- >>> >>> "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." >>> >>> Merlin Mann >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Or some other, non-politicized, option? Yes, thank you. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 23, 1:36 pm, Jennifer Walker <[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> So we'd be stuck with Microsoft? Um... no, please. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Maybe Apple and Google will destroy one another. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 23, 1:02 pm, "Edward Crosby" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> This is pretty awesome. >>> >>> >>> http://bit.ly/dqxW0v >>> >>> >>> I'm thinking I may buy the t-shirt. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Have a Better One, >>> >>> Edward Crosbyhttp://www.edwardcrosby.com >>> >>> ----- >>> >>> "There are no atheists in foxholes or firmware updates." >>> >>> Merlin Mann >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >>> Groups >>> >>> "The Unique Geek" group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> >>> [email protected]. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >>> >>> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> >>> <theuniquegeek%2bunsubscr...@goog >>> >>> legroups.com> >>> >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jennifer "Scraps" Walker >>> >>> Queen of the Helper Monkeys >>> >>> >>> Better living through creativity... and >>> >>> cocktails!http://www.scrapsoflife.com/blog-Hide quoted text - >>> >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >>> Groups >>> >>> "The Unique Geek" group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >>> >>> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> >>> "The Unique Geek" group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >>> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "The Unique Geek" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "The Unique Geek" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Unique Geek" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<theuniquegeek%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Unique Geek" group. 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