There are many studies done on this topic, but the world agrees that no-matter 
how popular a movie, there is almost NO bump in comic sales.  

The only exception is The Watchmen, which people bought IN ANTICIPATION of the 
movie, probably because everyone told them it was literature and the most 
important comic ever written, and if you read just one comic in your life, etc.

Here's just one link about this.

http://www.comicbookdaily.com/wp/columns/arrrgh-do-movies-effect-comic-book-sales/

The last time tv or a movie actually boosted comic sales was the 60s Batman tv 
series.

Not even those massive Spider-Man or Batman movies moved the needle. 






-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Service <[email protected]>
To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 10:34 am
Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Re: Hawkman Movie Is "What" Meets "The Hell?"


I have to agree with Raven here...mostly. Comics don't sell movies, but can a 
movie sell comics? I am going to make a shot in the dark and say yes. 
Especially in the case of Iron Man. Iron Man comics were never that well 
thought of (Sorry Van). I used to read it but he was never even close to the 
top of the comics 'favorite' list. I would say he can be a favorite Avenger but 
not an overall superhero/comic favorite...until the movie came out. Now every 
kid knows who Iron Man is. I don't care to research it but i would be willing 
to bet U S Currency on the fact that after the first iron Man movie the comics 
got a bump in sales. 

With regard to Shag suggesting that the Civil War run was a build up for comic 
readers to get excited about Iron Man...don't buy it. Civil War was just the 
Secret Wars or Secret Wars II or Inferno or Age of Apocalypse for that summer. 
Did Marvel think..."Hey we have an Iron Man movie coming out soon, let's make 
sure to feature Iron Man/Tony Stark in Civil War to get a little pub" sure, but 
that was more of an afterthought. Make the leader of that side of the Civil War 
story line Reed Richards (If they dared make another FF movie) or Hank Pym just 
as easily.
 
Bottom line, if you make the movie a compelling fun story, you can probably 
revive a hero...even Hawkman (potentially).

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:29 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

I think in all three of those cases, the deal to make a movie was long-signed 
before anything happened in the comics.  Usually, the comics attempt to "build 
up buzz" for a movie is to put out a weak mini-series or tie-in thing for sale 
at Barnes and Noble.   


Movies don't sell comics and comics don't sell movies.


Are any of these movies from characters that aren't a minimum of forty years 
old?  They did their buzz building back in the 60s.



The iron-man from Civil War wasn't jolly Tony from the movies.  The Green 
Lantern from Blackest Night isn't Ryan Reynolds.  Thor's costume looks similar. 
 What they do in comics is a non-factor.








The Green Lantern costume from the movie looks ribbed for her pleasure.  That 
thing was such a mistake. 





-----Original Message-----
From: shag <[email protected]>
To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]>



Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 5:20 am
Subject: RE: [The Unique Geek] Re: Hawkman Movie Is "What" Meets "The Hell?"


Nice attempt at distraction.  Admit it, you are defeated!



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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Re: Hawkman Movie Is "What" Meets "The
Hell?"
From: [email protected]
Date: Fri, June 03, 2011 12:04 pm
To: [email protected]

I thought Blackest Night was about firestorm vs. skelestorm?  That's all I ever 
heard about it, anyway.




-----Original Message-----
From: shag <[email protected]>
To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 4:39 am
Subject: RE: [The Unique Geek] Re: Hawkman Movie Is "What" Meets "The Hell?"


Alright.  Alright.  


Van may disagree, but I think Marvel really built up Iron Man and Thor prior to 
their movie debuts.  Tony Stark (whether loved or reviled) was at the heart of 
the best-selling Civil War.  Thor's big comeback post-Civil War was huge.  
Green Lantern has been built up with Blackest Night.


In each of those cases, the comic company really tried to make that character 
HUGE well in advance of the film.  I was using that philosophy that DC should 
try the same thing with Hawkman.  


Since we started talking about this, DC has announced a new monthly Hawkman 
title - The Savage Hawkman.  So who knows, maybe they are starting that effort 
already.



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http://twitter.com/onceuponageek




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Re: Hawkman Movie Is "What" Meets "The
Hell?"
From: [email protected]
Date: Fri, June 03, 2011 11:28 am
To: [email protected]

Shag, you are being called out!  Van and I never agree, but here we are united 
in thinking you ridiculous!  Defend thyself!   


Comics are a laboratory where stories can be refined, stretched, examined, 
over-cooked, savored....but the movies must be a tight, focused lightning bolt 
of story.  With comics, the stakes are low!  


We unmarried Spider-Man!  The nine people who read comics are mad!  We might 
lose sixteen dollars next month!
We put too many bad-guys in Spider-Man 3! The 40 MILLION people who saw it 
don't trust us to make Spider-Man 4 and we won't make THREE HUNDRED MILLION 
DOLLARS!


Stakes! 


-----Original Message-----
From: Van <[email protected]>
To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 12:55 am
Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Hawkman Movie Is "What" Meets "The Hell?"


On Jun 2, 7:16 am, <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with Luke.  Make 
him popular and likeable in the comics, then worry about films. > Shag-- the 
funny thing is, that's just the opposite of what Marvel did with Iron Man! lol. 
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