Loki+Cosmic Cube. That might be enough, although I wouldn't be surprised if 
they used the Skrulls as a 'henchman' for the main baddie. 

On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:

> Fair enough.  I often come across online as more dickish than I
> intend.
> 
> Hence I would like to get this thread back on track to the Avengers
> and not Firefly/Serenity.  Clearly that is a sore spot for me.
> 
> So is the rumor still that Loki is using the Skrulls somehow?  Along
> with the Infinity Gauntlet and/or the Cosmic Cube?
> 
> On Jul 19, 12:58 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Just attempting to keep up with your level of dickishness.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Sorry for steering this thread towards how bad Firefly and Serenity
>>> were.
>> 
>>> Jason, I was going to agree with you regarding Whedon and the outcome
>>> of The Avengers, but since you're insulting me by saying I need "spoon
>>> feeding" you can go pound salt.
>> 
>>> Ron, I think you are dead-on about the Hulk effects not being ready to
>>> show off, especially considering the sharp backlash from the fans when
>>> the unfinished ILM CGI Hulk was shown in trailers for Ang Lee's Hulk.
>>> I am willing to bet that Marvel wants Hulk to really "WOW" audiences
>>> when he shows up on the big screen in Avengers.
>> 
>>> Considering the less than stellar performance of Thor (as compared to
>>> IM and IM2), I am curious to see what both Captain America and then
>>> Avengers will do fiscally.  (Without looking up numbers I am pretty
>>> sure that Incredible Hulk did about the same as Thor.)  Will Avengers
>>> be seen as the third Iron Man film, putting projections in the $300m+
>>> range, or as the followup to Thor and such, putting it in the $170m
>>> range?
>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 12:36 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I wasn't a Firefly fan but I thought the movie was ok. Came across as a
>>> long TV show with better production values, but still watchable.
>> 
>>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 12:32 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> In geek culture, "known fact" does equal "desperate (fill in the blank)
>>> wish". And I'd bet most on this listserve 'know' that Serenity was awesome
>>> and that those that disagree are just wrong :)
>> 
>>>>> ~Ron
>> 
>>>>> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>> 
>>>>> -----Original message-----
>>>  > > From: Luke <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 13:10:22 GMT+00:00
>>>>> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>> 
>>>>> "Known fact?" You mean "desperate nerd wish?"
>> 
>>>>> I watched the show. It made my eyes hurt. Didn't help that, as I
>>>>> said in another thread yesterday, that it's a banal ripoff of Outlaw
>>>>> Star. And again, I'm not otaku so that's not just a typical Asiaphile
>>>>> argument.
>> 
>>>>> Fact: The only feature film which Joss Whedon has directed made ~
>>>>> $25m. Thus he has NO track record for being a successful film
>>>>> director. Hence my concern for the Avengers film.
>> 
>>>>> In any event, after seeing Thor this past weekend (discount theater) I
>>>>> am very excited to see him and Iron Man interact on screen. Nevermind
>>>>> Cap!
>> 
>>>>> On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Edward Crosby wrote:
>>>>>> That is your opinion, that Serenity and Firefly was a "dog of a show"
>>> when
>>>>>> it is a known fact that it was actually quite fantastic.
>>>>>> But, that is one of many things we accept here at TUG is that it is
>>> okay for
>>>>>> an opinion to be wrong. It's called diversity.
>> 
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>> Have a Better One,
>>>>>> Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Luke wrote:
>>>>>>> No, I'm not wrong.  You're wrong.  That movie was a dog, and a
>>>>>>> rightful fiscal failure.  Firefly was a dog of a show and the movie
>>>>>>> version was incomprehensible to anyone who was not a devotee of the
>>>>>>> show.
>> 
>>>>>>> Whedon has not proven himself to be successful in feature films.
>>>  The
>>>>>>> fact of the matter is that his only feature film was a bomb.  And
>>>>>>> hopefully he will not apply his filter of crumminess which defined
>>> his
>>>>>>> television shows to The Avengers.
>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:00 am, Edward Crosby wrote:
>>>>>>>> No it wasn't. You're wrong. It was a great, fun, and very
>>> entertaining
>>>>>>>> movie. Especially for the Firefly fans. There were only two bad
>>> parts of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> entire film - SPOILER ALERT - when Shepherd and Wash died.
>>>>>>>> Although I am not much of a Marvel fan, I am looking forward to
>>> this. I
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> hoping to see The Hulk in this. He's not in any of the clips.
>>> Wasn't he
>>>>>>>> supposed to be in the movie? IMDB.com has credits to Mark Ruffalo
>>> as puny
>>>>>>>> Banner (I remember the rumors of this) and Lou Ferrigno as the
>>> voice.
>> 
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Have a Better One,
>>>>>>>> Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Luke wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "You've got a mean swing."  Nice.  I hope that we can see some
>>> of Thor
>>>>>>>>> And Iron Man Are Friends like we saw in the early 100s of
>>> Avengers.
>> 
>>>>>>>>> I too am very excited for this project but with the huge caveat
>>> that I
>>>>>>>>> hope to all the gods of the Marvel pantheon that Joss Whedon
>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>> Whedon all over it and ruin it.  The only film he has ever
>>> directed
>>>>>>>>> (Serenity) was a mindless, hopeless, jumbled clusterbomb of a
>>>>>>>>> disaster.
>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 6:35 am, Cary Preston wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Very amped for this now.
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:41 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> agreed.  That "some assembly required" tagline is awesome.
>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: shag
>>>>>>>>>>> To: theuniquegeek
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:39 pm
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [The Unique Geek] Avengers!
>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Looks really good!
>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The Irredeemable Shag
>>>>>>>>>>> http://firestormfan.com
>>>>>>>>>>> http://onceuponageek.com
>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/firestormfan
>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Avengers!
>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, July 19, 2011 12:01 am
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> who knows how long this will be up -
>> 
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