Wait...scratch that. I guess they can't do another Planet Hulk movie since
there was already an animated movie.
But, I would still love to see a The Avengers vs. The Hulk movie.

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On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Edward Crosby <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is it too much to hope for a The Avengers fight against The Hulk as per
> that whole post-Civil War story and then The Hulk is banished to Planet Hulk
> and then we have a Planet Hulk movie?
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Have a Better One,
> Edward Crosby
> http://about.me/edwardcrosby
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I agree that a likely subplot will be the Hulk running rampant- it would
>> give Thor and Iron Man an opportunity for some big CGI destruction scenes.
>> Those fruit pies are a crime against humanity. They should have just made
>> Hostess the leader of AIM out to take over the world by making all the
>> children obese sugar zombies.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:33 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Wellll....I agree with Luke that they probably didn't show the Hulk
>> because CGI is almost always off-putting in trailers unless it is excellent
>> (and it is almost never excellent).  So many trailers end with a big,
>> screaming monster whose scream is answered by the audience with a yawn.
>>  Additionally, there's deep audience confusion as to who the "real" Hulk is.
>>  Neither movie version was fully embraced, but people know and will never
>> forget The Hulk, so...it almost doesn't matter who Banner is.  Puny Banner!!
>>
>>
>>  The Skrulls would be a good villain because they can be so many
>> different types of creatures, they'll present good challenges for the
>> different heroes.  Big things for Thor to fight, subtle things for Black
>> Widow to karate chop, etc.  My guess is, it's Skrulls and one of them
>> releases the Hulk and then the heroes have to fight the Hulk!  Then Loki
>> steals all the Hostess Fruit Pies while the heroes are distracted.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Todd Elliott <[email protected]>
>> To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 8:24 am
>> Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>>
>>  Newbs, Ultron was the villain in Voltron.  Gosh!
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Cary Preston < <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Good point. I wasn't considering movie villains- having a horde like the
>>> Skrulls or Kree would make for a good story, everyone would have an opponent
>>> to overcome.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Luke < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Ultron is good too.  Only problem I foresee is how to do Ultron
>>> > without Hank Pym -- ie, who builds him?
>>> >
>>> > On Jul 19, 2:05 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> The best Avengers villain is and always will be Ultron.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> I did not know about the rewrite.  Interesting.
>>> >>
>>> >>> I can't see introducing the Infinity Gauntlet on the heels of the
>>> >>> Cosmic Cube/Tesseract (as it is called in Captain America,
>>> >>> apparently).  One super artifact should be enough.
>>> >>
>>> >>> I could see using the Skrulls, I guess.  I never really liked them.
>>> >>> But I can see a movie where Nick Fury has the Avengers work together
>>> >>> because SHIELD has found out that high ranking officials are being
>>> >>> replaced with Skrulls with the intent of obtaining the Cube in order
>>> >>> to openly invade the Earth.  Skrulls just don't seem like a good foe
>>> >>> for Thor.  Iron Man, alright, I can give you that.  Maybe they have
>>> >>> super ray guns or something which can damage the armor.  But Skrulls
>>> >>> can't stand up to Thor, especially as he was portrayed in the movie.
>>> >>
>>> >>> I guess they're a better choice than the Space Phantom.
>>> >>
>>> >>> Honestly, my favorite Avengers villain is Kang and I know we won't
>>> get
>>> >>> him.
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Jul 19, 1:06 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>> keep in mind, thanks to Sam Jackson, we have a script re-write. I
>>> would be
>>> >>>> amazed if they went WILDLY away from what was written, but the
>>> leaked script
>>> >>>> is no longer valid.
>>> >>
>>> >>>> I am attempting to stay away from true story lines as i would like
>>> to be as
>>> >>>> suprised as possible with the story when i see the film, but
>>> speculation is
>>> >>>> all about the fun!!!
>>> >>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>>> Fair enough.  I often come across online as more dickish than I
>>> >>>>> intend.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>> Hence I would like to get this thread back on track to the Avengers
>>> >>>>> and not Firefly/Serenity.  Clearly that is a sore spot for me.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>> So is the rumor still that Loki is using the Skrulls somehow?
>>>  Along
>>> >>>>> with the Infinity Gauntlet and/or the Cosmic Cube?
>>> >>
>>> >>>>> On Jul 19, 12:58 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> Just attempting to keep up with your level of dickishness.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>  > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Luke <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> Sorry for steering this thread towards how bad Firefly and
>>> Serenity
>>> >>>>>>> were.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>> Jason, I was going to agree with you regarding Whedon and the
>>> outcome
>>> >>>>>>> of The Avengers, but since you're insulting me by saying I need
>>> "spoon
>>> >>>>>>> feeding" you can go pound salt.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>> Ron, I think you are dead-on about the Hulk effects not being
>>> ready to
>>> >>>>>>> show off, especially considering the sharp backlash from the fans
>>> when
>>> >>>>>>> the unfinished ILM CGI Hulk was shown in trailers for Ang Lee's
>>> Hulk.
>>> >>>>>>> I am willing to bet that Marvel wants Hulk to really "WOW"
>>> audiences
>>> >>>>>>> when he shows up on the big screen in Avengers.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>> Considering the less than stellar performance of Thor (as
>>> compared to
>>> >>>>>>> IM and IM2), I am curious to see what both Captain America and
>>> then
>>> >>>>>>> Avengers will do fiscally.  (Without looking up numbers I am
>>> pretty
>>> >>>>>>> sure that Incredible Hulk did about the same as Thor.)  Will
>>> Avengers
>>> >>>>>>> be seen as the third Iron Man film, putting projections in the
>>> $300m+
>>> >>>>>>> range, or as the followup to Thor and such, putting it in the
>>> $170m
>>> >>>>>>> range?
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 12:36 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>> I wasn't a Firefly fan but I thought the movie was ok. Came
>>> across as
>>> >>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>> long TV show with better production values, but still watchable.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 12:32 PM, "[email protected]" <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>> In geek culture, "known fact" does equal "desperate (fill in
>>> the
>>> >>>>> blank)
>>> >>>>>>> wish". And I'd bet most on this listserve 'know' that Serenity
>>> was
>>> >>>>> awesome
>>> >>>>>>> and that those that disagree are just wrong :)
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>> ~Ron
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original message-----
>>> >>>>>>>  > > From: Luke <[email protected]>
>>> >>>>>>>>> To: The Unique Geek < <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 13:10:22 GMT+00:00
>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>> "Known fact?" You mean "desperate nerd wish?"
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>> I watched the show. It made my eyes hurt. Didn't help that, as
>>> I
>>> >>>>>>>>> said in another thread yesterday, that it's a banal ripoff of
>>> >>>>> Outlaw
>>> >>>>>>>>> Star. And again, I'm not otaku so that's not just a typical
>>> >>>>> Asiaphile
>>> >>>>>>>>> argument.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Fact: The only feature film which Joss Whedon has directed made
>>> ~
>>> >>>>>>>>> $25m. Thus he has NO track record for being a successful film
>>> >>>>>>>>> director. Hence my concern for the Avengers film.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>> In any event, after seeing Thor this past weekend (discount
>>> >>>>> theater) I
>>> >>>>>>>>> am very excited to see him and Iron Man interact on screen.
>>> >>>>> Nevermind
>>> >>>>>>>>> Cap!
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Edward Crosby wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>> That is your opinion, that Serenity and Firefly was a "dog of
>>> a
>>> >>>>> show"
>>> >>>>>>> when
>>> >>>>>>>>>> it is a known fact that it was actually quite fantastic.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> But, that is one of many things we accept here at TUG is that
>>> it
>>> >>>>> is
>>> >>>>>>> okay for
>>> >>>>>>>>>> an opinion to be wrong. It's called diversity.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Have a Better One,
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Luke wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not wrong.  You're wrong.  That movie was a dog, and
>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> rightful fiscal failure.  Firefly was a dog of a show and the
>>> >>>>> movie
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> version was incomprehensible to anyone who was not a devotee
>>> of
>>> >>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> show.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Whedon has not proven himself to be successful in feature
>>> >>>>> films.
>>> >>>>>>>  The
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> fact of the matter is that his only feature film was a bomb.
>>> >>>>>  And
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hopefully he will not apply his filter of crumminess which
>>> >>>>> defined
>>> >>>>>>> his
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> television shows to The Avengers.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:00 am, Edward Crosby wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No it wasn't. You're wrong. It was a great, fun, and very
>>> >>>>>>> entertaining
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> movie. Especially for the Firefly fans. There were only two
>>> >>>>> bad
>>> >>>>>>> parts of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> entire film - SPOILER ALERT - when Shepherd and Wash died.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Although I am not much of a Marvel fan, I am looking forward
>>> >>>>> to
>>> >>>>>>> this. I
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> was
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hoping to see The Hulk in this. He's not in any of the
>>> clips.
>>> >>>>>>> Wasn't he
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be in the movie? IMDB.com has credits to Mark
>>> >>>>> Ruffalo
>>> >>>>>>> as puny
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Banner (I remember the rumors of this) and Lou Ferrigno as
>>> >>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>> voice.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have a Better One,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Luke wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "You've got a mean swing."  Nice.  I hope that we can see
>>> >>>>> some
>>> >>>>>>> of Thor
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And Iron Man Are Friends like we saw in the early 100s of
>>> >>>>>>> Avengers.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I too am very excited for this project but with the huge
>>> >>>>> caveat
>>> >>>>>>> that I
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hope to all the gods of the Marvel pantheon that Joss
>>> >>>>> Whedon
>>> >>>>>>> doesn't
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Whedon all over it and ruin it.  The only film he has ever
>>> >>>>>>> directed
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Serenity) was a mindless, hopeless, jumbled clusterbomb of
>>> >>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> disaster.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 6:35 am, Cary Preston wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very amped for this now.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:41 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agreed.  That "some assembly required" tagline is
>>> >>>>> awesome.
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: shag
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: theuniquegeek
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:39 pm
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [The Unique Geek] Avengers!
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks really good!
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Irredeemable Shag
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://firestormfan.com>http://firestormfan.com
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://onceuponageek.com>http://onceuponageek.com
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/firestormfan>
>>> http://twitter.com/firestormfan
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Avengers!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, July 19, 2011 12:01 am
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who knows how long this will be up -
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> <http://gizmodo.com/5822377/the-avengers-trailer-leaked-and-its-rad>
>>> http://gizmodo.com/5822377/the-avengers-trailer-leaked-and-its-rad
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