Is it too much to hope for a The Avengers fight against The Hulk as per that
whole post-Civil War story and then The Hulk is banished to Planet Hulk and
then we have a Planet Hulk movie?

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Have a Better One,
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On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree that a likely subplot will be the Hulk running rampant- it would
> give Thor and Iron Man an opportunity for some big CGI destruction scenes.
> Those fruit pies are a crime against humanity. They should have just made
> Hostess the leader of AIM out to take over the world by making all the
> children obese sugar zombies.
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:33 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Wellll....I agree with Luke that they probably didn't show the Hulk because
> CGI is almost always off-putting in trailers unless it is excellent (and it
> is almost never excellent).  So many trailers end with a big, screaming
> monster whose scream is answered by the audience with a yawn.  Additionally,
> there's deep audience confusion as to who the "real" Hulk is.  Neither movie
> version was fully embraced, but people know and will never forget The Hulk,
> so...it almost doesn't matter who Banner is.  Puny Banner!!
>
>  The Skrulls would be a good villain because they can be so many different
> types of creatures, they'll present good challenges for the different
> heroes.  Big things for Thor to fight, subtle things for Black Widow to
> karate chop, etc.  My guess is, it's Skrulls and one of them releases the
> Hulk and then the heroes have to fight the Hulk!  Then Loki steals all the
> Hostess Fruit Pies while the heroes are distracted.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Elliott <[email protected]>
> To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 8:24 am
> Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>
>  Newbs, Ultron was the villain in Voltron.  Gosh!
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>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Cary Preston < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Good point. I wasn't considering movie villains- having a horde like the
>> Skrulls or Kree would make for a good story, everyone would have an opponent
>> to overcome.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Luke < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Ultron is good too.  Only problem I foresee is how to do Ultron
>> > without Hank Pym -- ie, who builds him?
>> >
>> > On Jul 19, 2:05 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> The best Avengers villain is and always will be Ultron.
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I did not know about the rewrite.  Interesting.
>> >>
>> >>> I can't see introducing the Infinity Gauntlet on the heels of the
>> >>> Cosmic Cube/Tesseract (as it is called in Captain America,
>> >>> apparently).  One super artifact should be enough.
>> >>
>> >>> I could see using the Skrulls, I guess.  I never really liked them.
>> >>> But I can see a movie where Nick Fury has the Avengers work together
>> >>> because SHIELD has found out that high ranking officials are being
>> >>> replaced with Skrulls with the intent of obtaining the Cube in order
>> >>> to openly invade the Earth.  Skrulls just don't seem like a good foe
>> >>> for Thor.  Iron Man, alright, I can give you that.  Maybe they have
>> >>> super ray guns or something which can damage the armor.  But Skrulls
>> >>> can't stand up to Thor, especially as he was portrayed in the movie.
>> >>
>> >>> I guess they're a better choice than the Space Phantom.
>> >>
>> >>> Honestly, my favorite Avengers villain is Kang and I know we won't get
>> >>> him.
>> >>
>> >>> On Jul 19, 1:06 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> keep in mind, thanks to Sam Jackson, we have a script re-write. I
>> would be
>> >>>> amazed if they went WILDLY away from what was written, but the leaked
>> script
>> >>>> is no longer valid.
>> >>
>> >>>> I am attempting to stay away from true story lines as i would like to
>> be as
>> >>>> suprised as possible with the story when i see the film, but
>> speculation is
>> >>>> all about the fun!!!
>> >>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>> Fair enough.  I often come across online as more dickish than I
>> >>>>> intend.
>> >>
>> >>>>> Hence I would like to get this thread back on track to the Avengers
>> >>>>> and not Firefly/Serenity.  Clearly that is a sore spot for me.
>> >>
>> >>>>> So is the rumor still that Loki is using the Skrulls somehow?  Along
>> >>>>> with the Infinity Gauntlet and/or the Cosmic Cube?
>> >>
>> >>>>> On Jul 19, 12:58 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Just attempting to keep up with your level of dickishness.
>> >>
>> >>>>>  > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Luke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Sorry for steering this thread towards how bad Firefly and
>> Serenity
>> >>>>>>> were.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>> Jason, I was going to agree with you regarding Whedon and the
>> outcome
>> >>>>>>> of The Avengers, but since you're insulting me by saying I need
>> "spoon
>> >>>>>>> feeding" you can go pound salt.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>> Ron, I think you are dead-on about the Hulk effects not being
>> ready to
>> >>>>>>> show off, especially considering the sharp backlash from the fans
>> when
>> >>>>>>> the unfinished ILM CGI Hulk was shown in trailers for Ang Lee's
>> Hulk.
>> >>>>>>> I am willing to bet that Marvel wants Hulk to really "WOW"
>> audiences
>> >>>>>>> when he shows up on the big screen in Avengers.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>> Considering the less than stellar performance of Thor (as compared
>> to
>> >>>>>>> IM and IM2), I am curious to see what both Captain America and
>> then
>> >>>>>>> Avengers will do fiscally.  (Without looking up numbers I am
>> pretty
>> >>>>>>> sure that Incredible Hulk did about the same as Thor.)  Will
>> Avengers
>> >>>>>>> be seen as the third Iron Man film, putting projections in the
>> $300m+
>> >>>>>>> range, or as the followup to Thor and such, putting it in the
>> $170m
>> >>>>>>> range?
>> >>
>> >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 12:36 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> I wasn't a Firefly fan but I thought the movie was ok. Came
>> across as
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>>>> long TV show with better production values, but still watchable.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 12:32 PM, "[email protected]" <
>> [email protected]>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> In geek culture, "known fact" does equal "desperate (fill in the
>> >>>>> blank)
>> >>>>>>> wish". And I'd bet most on this listserve 'know' that Serenity was
>> >>>>> awesome
>> >>>>>>> and that those that disagree are just wrong :)
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> ~Ron
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original message-----
>> >>>>>>>  > > From: Luke <[email protected]>
>> >>>>>>>>> To: The Unique Geek < <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]>
>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 13:10:22 GMT+00:00
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> "Known fact?" You mean "desperate nerd wish?"
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> I watched the show. It made my eyes hurt. Didn't help that, as I
>> >>>>>>>>> said in another thread yesterday, that it's a banal ripoff of
>> >>>>> Outlaw
>> >>>>>>>>> Star. And again, I'm not otaku so that's not just a typical
>> >>>>> Asiaphile
>> >>>>>>>>> argument.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> Fact: The only feature film which Joss Whedon has directed made
>> ~
>> >>>>>>>>> $25m. Thus he has NO track record for being a successful film
>> >>>>>>>>> director. Hence my concern for the Avengers film.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> In any event, after seeing Thor this past weekend (discount
>> >>>>> theater) I
>> >>>>>>>>> am very excited to see him and Iron Man interact on screen.
>> >>>>> Nevermind
>> >>>>>>>>> Cap!
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Edward Crosby wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> That is your opinion, that Serenity and Firefly was a "dog of a
>> >>>>> show"
>> >>>>>>> when
>> >>>>>>>>>> it is a known fact that it was actually quite fantastic.
>> >>>>>>>>>> But, that is one of many things we accept here at TUG is that
>> it
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>>>> okay for
>> >>>>>>>>>> an opinion to be wrong. It's called diversity.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>> >>>>>>>>>> Have a Better One,
>> >>>>>>>>>> Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Luke wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> No, I'm not wrong.  You're wrong.  That movie was a dog, and a
>> >>>>>>>>>>> rightful fiscal failure.  Firefly was a dog of a show and the
>> >>>>> movie
>> >>>>>>>>>>> version was incomprehensible to anyone who was not a devotee
>> of
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> show.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Whedon has not proven himself to be successful in feature
>> >>>>> films.
>> >>>>>>>  The
>> >>>>>>>>>>> fact of the matter is that his only feature film was a bomb.
>> >>>>>  And
>> >>>>>>>>>>> hopefully he will not apply his filter of crumminess which
>> >>>>> defined
>> >>>>>>> his
>> >>>>>>>>>>> television shows to The Avengers.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:00 am, Edward Crosby wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No it wasn't. You're wrong. It was a great, fun, and very
>> >>>>>>> entertaining
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> movie. Especially for the Firefly fans. There were only two
>> >>>>> bad
>> >>>>>>> parts of
>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> entire film - SPOILER ALERT - when Shepherd and Wash died.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Although I am not much of a Marvel fan, I am looking forward
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>>>> this. I
>> >>>>>>>>>>> was
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hoping to see The Hulk in this. He's not in any of the clips.
>> >>>>>>> Wasn't he
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be in the movie? IMDB.com has credits to Mark
>> >>>>> Ruffalo
>> >>>>>>> as puny
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Banner (I remember the rumors of this) and Lou Ferrigno as
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> voice.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have a Better One,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Luke wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "You've got a mean swing."  Nice.  I hope that we can see
>> >>>>> some
>> >>>>>>> of Thor
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And Iron Man Are Friends like we saw in the early 100s of
>> >>>>>>> Avengers.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I too am very excited for this project but with the huge
>> >>>>> caveat
>> >>>>>>> that I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hope to all the gods of the Marvel pantheon that Joss
>> >>>>> Whedon
>> >>>>>>> doesn't
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Whedon all over it and ruin it.  The only film he has ever
>> >>>>>>> directed
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Serenity) was a mindless, hopeless, jumbled clusterbomb of
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> disaster.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 6:35 am, Cary Preston wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very amped for this now.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:41 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agreed.  That "some assembly required" tagline is
>> >>>>> awesome.
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: shag
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: theuniquegeek
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:39 pm
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [The Unique Geek] Avengers!
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks really good!
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Irredeemable Shag
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://onceuponageek.com>http://onceuponageek.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/firestormfan>
>> http://twitter.com/firestormfan
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Avengers!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, July 19, 2011 12:01 am
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who knows how long this will be up -
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>
>> <http://gizmodo.com/5822377/the-avengers-trailer-leaked-and-its-rad>
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