Ravenface, its not that I think anyone would particularly miss The
Leader, but his setup suggests that if another Hulk film is made that
he would have a role in it.  Otherwise, why bother spending the money
to do the effect and such?

Now you want to talk a villain who is going to be hard to portray on
film?  THE LEADER has that in spades.




On Jul 19, 4:01 pm, Edward Crosby <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Don't undercut the best idea you've had in a while."
>
> Heyyyy....
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Have a Better One,
> Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:56 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > You're right, Ed, an animated movie that three people saw negates the
> > chance to make a major motion picture with an audience of BILLIONS!
>
> >  Don't undercut the best idea you've had in a while.  Planet Hulk would be
> > a great movie and a great direction to go in if they want to keep the Hulk
> > franchise going.
>
> >  I don't think anyone cares about the Leader or will miss him.  Perhaps
> > audiences will confuse him with Hector Hammond from the Gre....oh, wait,
> > NOBODY SAW THAT!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Edward Crosby <[email protected]>
> > To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 8:52 am
> > Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>
> >  Wait...scratch that. I guess they can't do another Planet Hulk movie since
> > there was already an animated movie.
> > But, I would still love to see a The Avengers vs. The Hulk movie.
>
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Have a Better One,
> > Edward Crosby
> >http://about.me/edwardcrosby
>
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Edward Crosby <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Is it too much to hope for a The Avengers fight against The Hulk as per
> >> that whole post-Civil War story and then The Hulk is banished to Planet 
> >> Hulk
> >> and then we have a Planet Hulk movie?
>
> >> ----------------------------------------
> >> Have a Better One,
> >> Edward Crosby
> >>http://about.me/edwardcrosby
>
> >>   On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Cary Preston <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> >>>  I agree that a likely subplot will be the Hulk running rampant- it
> >>> would give Thor and Iron Man an opportunity for some big CGI destruction
> >>> scenes.
> >>> Those fruit pies are a crime against humanity. They should have just made
> >>> Hostess the leader of AIM out to take over the world by making all the
> >>> children obese sugar zombies.
>
> >>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:33 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >>>     Wellll....I agree with Luke that they probably didn't show the Hulk
> >>> because CGI is almost always off-putting in trailers unless it is 
> >>> excellent
> >>> (and it is almost never excellent).  So many trailers end with a big,
> >>> screaming monster whose scream is answered by the audience with a yawn.
> >>>  Additionally, there's deep audience confusion as to who the "real" Hulk 
> >>> is.
> >>>  Neither movie version was fully embraced, but people know and will never
> >>> forget The Hulk, so...it almost doesn't matter who Banner is.  Puny 
> >>> Banner!!
>
> >>>  The Skrulls would be a good villain because they can be so many
> >>> different types of creatures, they'll present good challenges for the
> >>> different heroes.  Big things for Thor to fight, subtle things for Black
> >>> Widow to karate chop, etc.  My guess is, it's Skrulls and one of them
> >>> releases the Hulk and then the heroes have to fight the Hulk!  Then Loki
> >>> steals all the Hostess Fruit Pies while the heroes are distracted.
>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Todd Elliott <[email protected]>
> >>> To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]>
> >>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 8:24 am
> >>> Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>
> >>>  Newbs, Ultron was the villain in Voltron.  Gosh!
>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------
> >>> Todd Elliott <[email protected]> | 
> >>> Profile<http://www.google.com/profiles/thelliott> |
> >>> Unique Geek <http://www.theuniquegeek.com/>
>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Cary Preston < <[email protected]>
> >>> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> Good point. I wasn't considering movie villains- having a horde like the
> >>>> Skrulls or Kree would make for a good story, everyone would have an 
> >>>> opponent
> >>>> to overcome.
>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>
> >>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Luke < <[email protected]>
> >>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> > Ultron is good too.  Only problem I foresee is how to do Ultron
> >>>> > without Hank Pym -- ie, who builds him?
>
> >>>> > On Jul 19, 2:05 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> >> The best Avengers villain is and always will be Ultron.
>
> >>>> >> On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> >>> I did not know about the rewrite.  Interesting.
>
> >>>> >>> I can't see introducing the Infinity Gauntlet on the heels of the
> >>>> >>> Cosmic Cube/Tesseract (as it is called in Captain America,
> >>>> >>> apparently).  One super artifact should be enough.
>
> >>>> >>> I could see using the Skrulls, I guess.  I never really liked them.
> >>>> >>> But I can see a movie where Nick Fury has the Avengers work together
> >>>> >>> because SHIELD has found out that high ranking officials are being
> >>>> >>> replaced with Skrulls with the intent of obtaining the Cube in order
> >>>> >>> to openly invade the Earth.  Skrulls just don't seem like a good foe
> >>>> >>> for Thor.  Iron Man, alright, I can give you that.  Maybe they have
> >>>> >>> super ray guns or something which can damage the armor.  But Skrulls
> >>>> >>> can't stand up to Thor, especially as he was portrayed in the movie.
>
> >>>> >>> I guess they're a better choice than the Space Phantom.
>
> >>>> >>> Honestly, my favorite Avengers villain is Kang and I know we won't
> >>>> get
> >>>> >>> him.
>
> >>>> >>> On Jul 19, 1:06 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> >>>> keep in mind, thanks to Sam Jackson, we have a script re-write. I
> >>>> would be
> >>>> >>>> amazed if they went WILDLY away from what was written, but the
> >>>> leaked script
> >>>> >>>> is no longer valid.
>
> >>>> >>>> I am attempting to stay away from true story lines as i would like
> >>>> to be as
> >>>> >>>> suprised as possible with the story when i see the film, but
> >>>> speculation is
> >>>> >>>> all about the fun!!!
>
> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>> Fair enough.  I often come across online as more dickish than I
> >>>> >>>>> intend.
>
> >>>> >>>>> Hence I would like to get this thread back on track to the
> >>>> Avengers
> >>>> >>>>> and not Firefly/Serenity.  Clearly that is a sore spot for me.
>
> >>>> >>>>> So is the rumor still that Loki is using the Skrulls somehow?
> >>>>  Along
> >>>> >>>>> with the Infinity Gauntlet and/or the Cosmic Cube?
>
> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 19, 12:58 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>> Just attempting to keep up with your level of dickishness.
>
> >>>> >>>>>  > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Luke <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>> Sorry for steering this thread towards how bad Firefly and
> >>>> Serenity
> >>>> >>>>>>> were.
>
> >>>> >>>>>>> Jason, I was going to agree with you regarding Whedon and the
> >>>> outcome
> >>>> >>>>>>> of The Avengers, but since you're insulting me by saying I need
> >>>> "spoon
> >>>> >>>>>>> feeding" you can go pound salt.
>
> >>>> >>>>>>> Ron, I think you are dead-on about the Hulk effects not being
> >>>> ready to
> >>>> >>>>>>> show off, especially considering the sharp backlash from the
> >>>> fans when
> >>>> >>>>>>> the unfinished ILM CGI Hulk was shown in trailers for Ang Lee's
> >>>> Hulk.
> >>>> >>>>>>> I am willing to bet that Marvel wants Hulk to really "WOW"
> >>>> audiences
> >>>> >>>>>>> when he shows up on the big screen in Avengers.
>
> >>>> >>>>>>> Considering the less than stellar performance of Thor (as
> >>>> compared to
> >>>> >>>>>>> IM and IM2), I am curious to see what both Captain America and
> >>>> then
> >>>> >>>>>>> Avengers will do fiscally.  (Without looking up numbers I am
> >>>> pretty
> >>>> >>>>>>> sure that Incredible Hulk did about the same as Thor.)  Will
> >>>> Avengers
> >>>> >>>>>>> be seen as the third Iron Man film, putting projections in the
> >>>> $300m+
> >>>> >>>>>>> range, or as the followup to Thor and such, putting it in the
> >>>> $170m
> >>>> >>>>>>> range?
>
> >>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 12:36 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>> I wasn't a Firefly fan but I thought the movie was ok. Came
> >>>> across as
> >>>> >>>>> a
> >>>> >>>>>>> long TV show with better production values, but still watchable.
>
> >>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 12:32 PM, "[email protected]" <
> >>>> [email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> In geek culture, "known fact" does equal "desperate (fill in
> >>>> the
> >>>> >>>>> blank)
> >>>> >>>>>>> wish". And I'd bet most on this listserve 'know' that Serenity
> >>>> was
> >>>> >>>>> awesome
> >>>> >>>>>>> and that those that disagree are just wrong :)
>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> ~Ron
>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original message-----
> >>>> >>>>>>>  > > From: Luke <[email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> To: The Unique Geek < <[email protected]>
> >>>> [email protected]>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 13:10:22 GMT+00:00
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> "Known fact?" You mean "desperate nerd wish?"
>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I watched the show. It made my eyes hurt. Didn't help that, as
> >>>> I
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> said in another thread yesterday, that it's a banal ripoff of
> >>>> >>>>> Outlaw
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Star. And again, I'm not otaku so that's not just a typical
> >>>> >>>>> Asiaphile
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> argument.
>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Fact: The only feature film which Joss Whedon has directed
> >>>> made ~
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> $25m. Thus he has NO track record for being a successful film
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> director. Hence my concern for the Avengers film.
>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> In any event, after seeing Thor this past weekend (discount
> >>>> >>>>> theater) I
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> am very excited to see him and Iron Man interact on screen.
> >>>> >>>>> Nevermind
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Cap!
>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 9:04 am, Edward
>
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