Ravenface, you make a good point.  Its not the end of the world if The
Leader doesn't show up.  You'd need someone else as well.  Someone who
everyone will appreciate.  Like the Bi-Beast. ;)

A live action Planet Hulk would definitely get people's attention.

On Jul 19, 4:17 pm, Edward Crosby <[email protected]> wrote:
> I can tell you that Devon, my 12 yr old, LOVES The Hulk. And, he LOVED,
> LOVED Planet Hulk, both the comic and the animate movie. I could see that
> movie attracting the masses, especially the children. He also loves The
> Avengers cartoon too so seeing The Avengers fight The Hulk in The Avengers
> movie would be very attractive for Devon's age group.
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Have a Better One,
> Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:11 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I guess what I'm saying is...I don't think anyone is dancing in place
> > thinking, ohgodohgodoggod, can't wait to see Hulk vs. Leader!  It was a fine
> > B-Plot for that movie, and I now they have something in their back pocket if
> > they want to try another conventional Hulk movie, but "Hulk vs Aliens" is a
> > much easier to sell and more exciting concept than "Hulk vs. Evil Genius."
>
> >  All of these set-ups, The Leader, Sinestro, are just...because they don't
> > have anything else.  Like, when they showed the Joker card at the end of
> > Batman Begins, everyone went nuts, because EVERYONE knows Batman vs. The
> > Joker.  Six people, five of whom are on this list, care about The Leader.  I
> > have serious doubts anyone will complain if the next Hulk film, should there
> > be one, has him in a loin cloth punching the shit out of Venusian Mountain
> > monsters instead of him dodging, I dunno, spider robots the Leader makes.
>
> >  The whole, "Get him, my minions" trope is boring.  More punching!
>
> >   Ed, that wasn't a slight re: best idea.  It's a good idea!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Luke <[email protected]>
> > To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 9:02 am
> > Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>
> >  Ravenface, its not that I think anyone would particularly miss The
> > Leader, but his setup suggests that if another Hulk film is made that
> > he would have a role in it.  Otherwise, why bother spending the money
> > to do the effect and such?
>
> > Now you want to talk a villain who is going to be hard to portray on
> > film?  THE LEADER has that in spades.
>
> > On Jul 19, 4:01 pm, Edward Crosby <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > "Don't undercut the best idea you've had in a while."
>
> > > Heyyyy....
>
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > Have a Better One,
> > > Edward Crosbyhttp://about.me/edwardcrosby
>
> > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:56 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > You're right, Ed, an animated movie that three people saw negates the
> > > > chance to make a major motion picture with an audience of BILLIONS!
>
> > > >  Don't undercut the best idea you've had in a while.  Planet Hulk would 
> > > > be
> > > > a great movie and a great direction to go in if they want to keep the 
> > > > Hulk
> > > > franchise going.
>
> > > >  I don't think anyone cares about the Leader or will miss him.  Perhaps
> > > > audiences will confuse him with Hector Hammond from the Gre....oh, wait,
> > > > NOBODY SAW THAT!
>
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Edward Crosby <[email protected]>
> > > > To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 8:52 am
> > > > Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>
> > > >  Wait...scratch that. I guess they can't do another Planet Hulk movie 
> > > > since
> > > > there was already an animated movie.
> > > > But, I would still love to see a The Avengers vs. The Hulk movie.
>
> > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > Have a Better One,
> > > > Edward Crosby
> > > >http://about.me/edwardcrosby
>
> > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Edward Crosby <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >> Is it too much to hope for a The Avengers fight against The Hulk as per
> > > >> that whole post-Civil War story and then The Hulk is banished to Planet
> > Hulk
> > > >> and then we have a Planet Hulk movie?
>
> > > >> ----------------------------------------
> > > >> Have a Better One,
> > > >> Edward Crosby
> > > >>http://about.me/edwardcrosby
>
> > > >>   On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Cary Preston 
> > > >> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > >>>  I agree that a likely subplot will be the Hulk running rampant- it
> > > >>> would give Thor and Iron Man an opportunity for some big CGI 
> > > >>> destruction
> > > >>> scenes.
> > > >>> Those fruit pies are a crime against humanity. They should have just 
> > > >>> made
> > > >>> Hostess the leader of AIM out to take over the world by making all the
> > > >>> children obese sugar zombies.
>
> > > >>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:33 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > >>>     Wellll....I agree with Luke that they probably didn't show the 
> > > >>> Hulk
> > > >>> because CGI is almost always off-putting in trailers unless it is
> > excellent
> > > >>> (and it is almost never excellent).  So many trailers end with a big,
> > > >>> screaming monster whose scream is answered by the audience with a 
> > > >>> yawn.
> > > >>>  Additionally, there's deep audience confusion as to who the "real" 
> > > >>> Hulk
> > is.
> > > >>>  Neither movie version was fully embraced, but people know and will 
> > > >>> never
> > > >>> forget The Hulk, so...it almost doesn't matter who Banner is.  Puny
> > Banner!!
>
> > > >>>  The Skrulls would be a good villain because they can be so many
> > > >>> different types of creatures, they'll present good challenges for the
> > > >>> different heroes.  Big things for Thor to fight, subtle things for 
> > > >>> Black
> > > >>> Widow to karate chop, etc.  My guess is, it's Skrulls and one of them
> > > >>> releases the Hulk and then the heroes have to fight the Hulk!  Then 
> > > >>> Loki
> > > >>> steals all the Hostess Fruit Pies while the heroes are distracted.
>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: Todd Elliott <[email protected]>
> > > >>> To: theuniquegeek <[email protected]>
> > > >>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 8:24 am
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [The Unique Geek] Re: Avengers!
>
> > > >>>  Newbs, Ultron was the villain in Voltron.  Gosh!
>
> > > >>> ---------------------------------------------
> > > >>> Todd Elliott <[email protected]> | 
> > > >>> Profile<http://www.google.com/profiles/thelliott>
> > |
> > > >>> Unique Geek <http://www.theuniquegeek.com/>
>
> > > >>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Cary Preston < <[email protected]>
> > > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> Good point. I wasn't considering movie villains- having a horde like 
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>> Skrulls or Kree would make for a good story, everyone would have an
> > opponent
> > > >>>> to overcome.
>
> > > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > > >>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Luke < <[email protected]>
> > > >>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> > Ultron is good too.  Only problem I foresee is how to do Ultron
> > > >>>> > without Hank Pym -- ie, who builds him?
>
> > > >>>> > On Jul 19, 2:05 pm, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>> >> The best Avengers villain is and always will be Ultron.
>
> > > >>>> >> On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> >>> I did not know about the rewrite.  Interesting.
>
> > > >>>> >>> I can't see introducing the Infinity Gauntlet on the heels of the
> > > >>>> >>> Cosmic Cube/Tesseract (as it is called in Captain America,
> > > >>>> >>> apparently).  One super artifact should be enough.
>
> > > >>>> >>> I could see using the Skrulls, I guess.  I never really liked 
> > > >>>> >>> them.
> > > >>>> >>> But I can see a movie where Nick Fury has the Avengers work 
> > > >>>> >>> together
> > > >>>> >>> because SHIELD has found out that high ranking officials are 
> > > >>>> >>> being
> > > >>>> >>> replaced with Skrulls with the intent of obtaining the Cube in 
> > > >>>> >>> order
> > > >>>> >>> to openly invade the Earth.  Skrulls just don't seem like a good 
> > > >>>> >>> foe
> > > >>>> >>> for Thor.  Iron Man, alright, I can give you that.  Maybe they 
> > > >>>> >>> have
> > > >>>> >>> super ray guns or something which can damage the armor.  But 
> > > >>>> >>> Skrulls
> > > >>>> >>> can't stand up to Thor, especially as he was portrayed in the 
> > > >>>> >>> movie.
>
> > > >>>> >>> I guess they're a better choice than the Space Phantom.
>
> > > >>>> >>> Honestly, my favorite Avengers villain is Kang and I know we 
> > > >>>> >>> won't
> > > >>>> get
> > > >>>> >>> him.
>
> > > >>>> >>> On Jul 19, 1:06 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>> >>>> keep in mind, thanks to Sam Jackson, we have a script re-write. 
> > > >>>> >>>> I
> > > >>>> would be
> > > >>>> >>>> amazed if they went WILDLY away from what was written, but the
> > > >>>> leaked script
> > > >>>> >>>> is no longer valid.
>
> > > >>>> >>>> I am attempting to stay away from true story lines as i would 
> > > >>>> >>>> like
> > > >>>> to be as
> > > >>>> >>>> suprised as possible with the story when i see the film, but
> > > >>>> speculation is
> > > >>>> >>>> all about the fun!!!
>
> > > >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>> >>>>> Fair enough.  I often come across online as more dickish than I
> > > >>>> >>>>> intend.
>
> > > >>>> >>>>> Hence I would like to get this thread back on track to the
> > > >>>> Avengers
> > > >>>> >>>>> and not Firefly/Serenity.  Clearly that is a sore spot for me.
>
> > > >>>> >>>>> So is the rumor still that Loki is using the Skrulls somehow?
> > > >>>>  Along
> > > >>>> >>>>> with the Infinity Gauntlet and/or the Cosmic Cube?
>
> > > >>>> >>>>> On Jul 19, 12:58 pm, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>> >>>>>> Just attempting to keep up with your level of dickishness.
>
> > > >>>> >>>>>  > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Luke <[email protected]>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>> >>>>>>> Sorry for steering this thread towards how bad Firefly and
> > > >>>> Serenity
> > > >>>> >>>>>>> were.
>
> > > >>>> >>>>>>> Jason, I was going to agree with you regarding Whedon and the
> > > >>>> outcome
> > > >>>> >>>>>>> of The Avengers, but since you're insulting me by saying I 
> > > >>>> >>>>>>> need
> > > >>>> "spoon
> > > >>>> >>>>>>> feeding" you can go pound salt.
>
> > > >>>> >>>>>>> Ron, I think you are dead-on about the Hulk effects not being
> > > >>>> ready to
> > > >>>> >>>>>>> show off, especially considering the sharp backlash from the
> > > >>>> fans when
> > > >>>> >>>>>>> the unfinished ILM CGI Hulk was shown in trailers for Ang 
> > > >>>> >>>>>>> Lee's
> > > >>>> Hulk.
>
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