Hi Josiah

> I just noticed that it appears a reader can no longer "close" a thread.
> 
> I assume that is a side effect of the recent changes in the admin system?
> 
> Quite often authors of threads request that (as it is not possible for the 
> author of the thread to close it) it be closed when they got an answer that 
> solves it.
> 
> Are moderators now going to look for that? It seemed to work fine before. 

As discussed above, the Google Groups permissions are not very granular. We’ve 
changed a single setting called “Moderation” and it appears to affect pinning, 
tagging, closing — pretty much everything except post.

Best wishes

Jeremy


> 
> Best wishes
> Josiah
> 
> On Saturday, 7 December 2019 12:37:34 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>> 
>> I could be wrong, but it looks like the feature has already been turned off. 
>> I did feel that the original list of tags was too broad.
> 
> It sounds like tagging is classified under the same “moderation” permission 
> that governs the ability to pin posts. 
> 
> We could revert the change, but perhaps the solution here is to appoint some 
> more group managers. The top 10 posters according to Google Groups are below. 
> Eric is already a group manager, but it might be good if maybe 3 or 4 of 
> these people volunteered for the role.
> TonyM
> Mohammad
> TiddlyTweeter
> Mark S
> Arlen
> Eric
> A Gloom
> PMario
> (me)
> Jed (inmysocks)
> See https://groups.google.com/forum/#!aboutgroup/tiddlywiki 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!aboutgroup/tiddlywiki>
> 
> The group managers would:
> Help Eric with moderating posts flagged by Google as spam
> Pin and unpin threads
> Compile pinned anthology posts summarising important announcements and 
> discussions
> And perhaps use whatever other useful moderation features may be lurking 
> under the surface of Google Groups
> It also seems like we need to be more transparent about the rules and 
> conventions we’re following to manage the group. I’d suggest adding a tiddler 
> to tiddlywiki.com <http://tiddlywiki.com/> in which we describe our approach 
> (for example, guidelines about when to pin a thread, or a thread from last 
> year where I posted about the need to criticise ideas rather than people). 
> Perhaps we actually need two: one called “Moderation Policies” focusing on 
> the role of group managers and one called “Code of Conduct” focusing on the 
> standards of behaviour we expect from everyone in the group.
> 
> I’d welcome any advice/thoughts from people who have experience of other 
> online communities. I’m sure we can do a better job overall, and I suspect 
> more formal roles in the community will be a part of it.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 4:55:32 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>> In another thread ...
>> 
>> Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>> * Pinning should never have been globally available. I appreciate the 
>> argument that no great harm was done, but it evidently created confusion as 
>> to who could see that a thread had been pinned
>> * We should agree on general rules for what threads might qualify for being 
>> pinned. To me, pinning would start with urgent announcements (e.g. if 
>> discovered a serious bug in a release and wanted to warn people to upgrade), 
>> important on-going informational threads like “Newbies start here”
>> 
>> Ciao Jeremy
>> 
>> In another thread 
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/gWtX7uGi2QQ/xg6sv0PICQAJ> we 
>> discussing user v. admin privileges re PINS. 
>> 
>> Here I want to ask about TAGS.
>> 
>> First I just want to check IF you are aware that at the moment any user can 
>> both add or delete TAGS on any post?
>> 
>>   +  In a way its v. good in that missing tags get added. 
>>    + Its good that an original author who has not added them may have them 
>> added by an enthusiastic user
>> 
>>   -  in another way its not ideal as these don't get documented and the 
>> numbers could get vast...
>>   -  I see no place user added tags get listed. 
>> 
>> For example, this post I gave tags: "question GoogleGroup tags" 
>> 
>> Tags have proved very useful for finding things here. But I'm not sure, 
>> without moderated addition, they are optimal.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>> 
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