Ciao Jeremy The issue on this is that it was a pretty routine issue closing threads on request previously. It helps in that readers then know you don't need to bother reading that thread. Unless a moderator is reading everything it won't happen now.
I hope we can get to some kind of consensus on a way forward because right now it is less than optimal. I appreciate there are issues on closing threads, pinning & tagging (most issues are on the latter I think, as its not fully clear what has gone on) but none of it was exactly a huge problem. Best wishes Josiah On Monday, 9 December 2019 16:40:47 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > Hi Josiah > > I just noticed that it appears a reader can no longer "close" a thread. > > I assume that is a side effect of the recent changes in the admin system? > > Quite often authors of threads request that (as it is not possible for the > author of the thread to close it) it be closed when they got an answer that > solves it. > > Are moderators now going to look for that? It seemed to work fine before. > > > As discussed above, the Google Groups permissions are not very granular. > We’ve changed a single setting called “Moderation” and it appears to affect > pinning, tagging, closing — pretty much everything except post. > > Best wishes > > Jeremy > > > > Best wishes > Josiah > > On Saturday, 7 December 2019 12:37:34 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: >> >> >> I could be wrong, but it looks like the feature has already been turned >> off. I did feel that the original list of tags was too broad. >> >> >> It sounds like tagging is classified under the same “moderation” >> permission that governs the ability to pin posts. >> >> We could revert the change, but perhaps the solution here is to appoint >> some more group managers. The top 10 posters according to Google Groups are >> below. Eric is already a group manager, but it might be good if maybe 3 or >> 4 of these people volunteered for the role. >> >> - TonyM >> - Mohammad >> - TiddlyTweeter >> - Mark S >> - Arlen >> - Eric >> - A Gloom >> - PMario >> - (me) >> - Jed (inmysocks) >> >> See https://groups.google.com/forum/#!aboutgroup/tiddlywiki >> >> The group managers would: >> >> - Help Eric with moderating posts flagged by Google as spam >> - Pin and unpin threads >> - Compile pinned anthology posts summarising important announcements >> and discussions >> - And perhaps use whatever other useful moderation features may be >> lurking under the surface of Google Groups >> >> It also seems like we need to be more transparent about the rules and >> conventions we’re following to manage the group. I’d suggest adding a >> tiddler to tiddlywiki.com in which we describe our approach (for >> example, guidelines about when to pin a thread, or a thread from last year >> where I posted about the need to criticise ideas rather than people). >> Perhaps we actually need two: one called “Moderation Policies” focusing on >> the role of group managers and one called “Code of Conduct” focusing on the >> standards of behaviour we expect from everyone in the group. >> >> I’d welcome any advice/thoughts from people who have experience of other >> online communities. I’m sure we can do a better job overall, and I suspect >> more formal roles in the community will be a part of it. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Jeremy. >> >> >> >> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 4:55:32 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote: >>> >>> In another thread ... >>> >>> Jeremy Ruston wrote: >>>> >>>> * Pinning should never have been globally available. I appreciate the >>>> argument that no great harm was done, but it evidently created confusion >>>> as >>>> to who could see that a thread had been pinned >>>> * We should agree on general rules for what threads might qualify for >>>> being pinned. To me, pinning would start with urgent announcements (e.g. >>>> if >>>> discovered a serious bug in a release and wanted to warn people to >>>> upgrade), important on-going informational threads like “Newbies start >>>> here” >>>> >>> >>> Ciao Jeremy >>> >>> In another thread >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/gWtX7uGi2QQ/xg6sv0PICQAJ> we >>> discussing user v. admin privileges re PINS. >>> >>> Here I want to ask about TAGS. >>> >>> *First I just want to check IF you are aware that at the moment any user >>> can both add or delete TAGS on any post?* >>> >>> * +* In a way its v. good in that missing tags get added. >>> *+ *Its good that an original author who has not added them may have >>> them added by an enthusiastic user >>> >>> *-* in another way its not ideal as these don't get documented and >>> the numbers could get vast... >>> * - * I see no place user added tags get listed. >>> >>> For example, this post I gave tags: "question GoogleGroup tags" >>> >>> Tags have proved very useful for finding things here. 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