Bitmanteau Tiddlywiki nicer though.
The only hassle I remember is trying to explain to my mom that a tiddler was just another name for an entry. On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 11:11:32 AM UTC+8 Corey S wrote: > I haven't read everything yet, but to a possible name change, I was > thinking of a name like BitWiki or something, if it hasn't been taken > already. > A Bit = Tiddly > > On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 2:23:45 PM UTC-7 Ed Heil wrote: > >> Hi Jeremy, >> >> Re-reading this message (and studiously avoiding making any suggestions >> for new names) the idea of "targeting more modern JavaScript engines" makes >> me wonder about the question of "how modern a browser do you need to have >> to have a working Tiddlywiki?" >> >> With regards to minimum browsers for TW5, according to the web site it's >> "Safari version 6" (from 2012!) IE version 10 (also from 2012!) and "all >> recent" Chrome, Firefox, and Firefox for Android, whatever that means, but >> presumably going back comparably far. So right now TW5 is usable in >> browsers that go about 8 years back, which is nice. And TWC support >> obviously goes back way further than that. >> >> How big a change in "you need this recent a browser" would you think was >> acceptable in a "Xememex" project? >> >> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 7:52:20 AM UTC-5 jeremy...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> As appealing as this sounds, I just don't think that as a small >>> community we have the resources to support both, unless the intention would >>> be for TiddlyWiki 5 to only receive bug fix updates. >>> >>> >>> I think that would be the default, yes, unless somebody wanted to pick >>> up the development more purposefully. >>> >>> As you mention in a later reply, the real challenge is replacing the >>> word tiddler. I remember trying this in Classic and it wasn't easy then and >>> is probably even harder now with all the widget attributes etc. Which makes >>> me wonder if this would really be the best use of our time and resources? >>> >>> >>> That is indeed one of the critical questions. >>> >>> Over the years we've had consistent feedback on the name "TiddlyWiki" >>> that ranges between: >>> >>> * I don't care about the name, it's just a meaningless string of letters >>> * I think the name is fine, it's distinctive, and has few false >>> positives when Googling >>> * I think the name diminishes TiddlyWiki >>> * I think the name is a thinly veiled obscenity >>> >>> That last category is undoubtedly a minority, but it's a very >>> consistently and forcefully expressed opinion when it does come up. I used >>> to think that view said more about the people holding it than anything >>> else. But the trouble is that I'm too close to the thing: the name >>> "TiddlyWiki" is my little piece of wordplay, and I'm attached to it. I >>> think maybe that might hold for many of us who have invested time and >>> effort in the project. So I have to pay attention to feedback that comes >>> from a different perspective, because I'm never going to be able to assume >>> that perspective myself. >>> >>> The other consideration in all of this is my desire to modernise the >>> design of TW5 and establish a new baseline for backwards compatibility. >>> After 10 years, it's becoming increasingly limiting to live with some of >>> the early design decisions of TW5 (a lot of which are pretty arcane - for >>> example, "tiddlerfield" modules). I believe we would make faster and more >>> decisive progress if we lost some of that baggage. >>> >>> The idea of modernising the core relates to the naming change because >>> another bit of feedback that I received back in 2011-13 was that it was a >>> mistake to reuse the name TiddlyWiki for the new project. Many people felt >>> that it was unnecessarily confusing to have two distinct products with the >>> same name, and struggled with my perspective that TWC and TW5 were >>> different versions of the same thing. >>> >>> So, what I learned from all of the above is that names for communal >>> things are tricky. People have strong opinions because they feel they have >>> a stake. The thing that is particularly tricky is trying to change what an >>> existing name means if the previous meaning is entrenched in the community. >>> >>> In other words, I think TiddlyWiki 5 is ripe for such a thorough >>> internal overhaul that changing the names might not be as much of a >>> practical consideration as it would be if we had to maintain backwards >>> compatibility. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> Jeremy. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Saq >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/46fa1057-6405-463e-8ec2-b67532599227n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/46fa1057-6405-463e-8ec2-b67532599227n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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