I see what you can do about mode-switching , Charlie, and agree: that’s a 
good hi-level UI affordance..

Still, I think that there be pretty deep issues that keep TW from being a 
very agile NoteTaking tool. 

The best solution to the portability problem that I have found involves 
using Quine2 app on my iPhone, with sync to my desktop TW instance via 
Apple iCloud, but that is kind of a hack, overly dependent on Apple, I 
would say. 

Still more challenging to my mind is the diff between an outlining editor 
and the text editing window in a tiddler;  that is fundamentally 
constrained by web standards -is it not?

/walt 


On Saturday, June 19, 2021 at 5:21:42 AM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:

> Instinctively, I'm thinking it should be possible to simultaneously have 
> both "modes" (taking vs making) at the same time available, just because 
> TiddlyWiki is so flexible.
>
> If not simultaneous modes, then it should be possible to switch between 
> the two modes without batting an eyelash, kind of like how my more recent 
> TiddlyWiki instances can switch between "reader" and "author" modes 
> (triggered by hide/show of sidebar).  Or how my Favourite Stuff and 
> Projects 
> <https://intertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org/CJ_ProductReviews.html> 
> TiddlyWiki can switch between contexts.
>
> That said, I must chew on it a bit, and read all previously mentioned 
> articles a few times over.
>
>
> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 6:29:42 PM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> Thanks for engaging, Saq: responses inline below.
>>
>> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 6:53:51 PM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Crude, but effective enough, albeit with some editing overhead in TW 
>>>> that it would be nice to eliminate.  Am starting to explore the 
>>>> possibilities of Logseq as a potential Dynalist replacement; it does 
>>>> outlining in much the same way, but has some interesting export functions, 
>>>> including JSON and Roam JSON.  If there were a way in TW to import such 
>>>> exports and convert them into proper tiddlers... That would be amazing!
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is definitely doable. How useful such an import is will depend on 
>>> what kind of features/markup you are using in those systems and how well 
>>> they would translate to wikitext. Converting pure text though is very 
>>> straight forward.
>>>
>>
>> It is mostly plain text, but for Markdown formatting ( which I could live 
>> without) and links- formatted like [Google](https:// Google.com) -which 
>> would need conversion to [[wikilinks form|https://google.com]].
>>  
>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>> If anyone else has got some other solution for agile NoteTaking that 
>>>> integrates nicely with TiddlyWiki for NoteMaking, i'd be very interested 
>>>> to 
>>>> hear about it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> To this end, it would be interesting to understand what features or 
>>> workflow in Dynalist (or Logseq) make it better for note taking (vs 
>>> TiddlyWiki) in your experience. 
>>>
>>
>> Essentially it’s about speed and portability, traversing/ elaborating/ 
>> reorganizing outlines as fast as fingers can type, and context switching 
>> from local desktop to mobile phone in the field ( i.e. cloud) many times 
>> per day without a hitch.  If this is possible in TW, I’d love to know how… 
>> But i think it’s a case of architectures that are optimized for different 
>> things, don’t you think?
>>
>> /walt 
>>
>

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