Hi Ben,

Thanks for the pointers, but they sort of reinforce that it seems less work to build from scratch.....
Ben Gillies wrote:
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:33 PM, [email protected]
<[email protected]>  wrote:
On Nov 13, 7:26 pm, Miles Fidelman<[email protected]>  wrote:
I expect we're going to go off and write our own framework for
single-page applications - because it sure looks a lot easier than
buliding on Tiddly.  That's sort of a shame.
If you're into tiddlers, but not TiddlyWiki, you might have a browse
around http://tiddlyspace.com/, looking at some of the non-tiddlywiki
applications that have been created there. Ben Gillies and Jon Robson
ought to be able to point out some good examples.

First off - we're specifically into SPAs that can run locally - that's the primary attraction of TiddlyWiki. There are LOTS of ways to write hosted applications.

If we WERE interested in building on tiddlyspace:

Hi Miles. As Chris states, we've been looking at and building
non-TiddlyWiki based apps on top of TiddlySpace for a while now.

There are some examples around TiddlySpace that you can look at:

* http://apps.tiddlyspace.com - This is a jumping off point for
several apps that Jon Robson (mostly) has written.

absolutely no documentation behind any of those


* http://tiddlyace.tiddlyspace.com - This app provides a simple code
editor witht the ability to create new HTML/JavaScript/CSS tiddlers,
etc (good for mocking up/developing around new apps). It's based on
the ACE project (https://github.com/ajaxorg/ace)

Again, no documentation or anything to give a clue what this thing is.

We keep coming back to the same conclusions:
- TiddlyWiki is a great example of what's possible for with SPAs
- it's pretty useful in it's current form (though the changing browser/landscape seems to lead to compatibility issues) - it's virtually impossible to understand what's going on under the hood without completely deconstructing the raw code - hence providing an incredibly steep learning curve for even making small modifications, much less using it as a platform - hence, it's better as an existence proof, and a source of ideas - but it's easier to redesign from scratch to get to a useful platform

Miles


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In<fnord>  practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra


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