Ton,

Thanks for the suggestions. I have added an option to enable/disable the 
plugin, also a popup for easy configuration for the plugin.

TableEditor v1.3.9

   - (min version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN
   - (full version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor

Main thing is a popup for easy configuration of the plugin. Press the 'C' 
button to bring it up. Note that if you disable the plugin, you'll need to 
go AdvancedOptions shadow tiddler to re-enable it.
There is an option to enable/disable transposition of a table for 
interested people. Seems to work.

Have Fun!

Vincent

On Monday, September 24, 2012 7:17:57 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> Hi Vincent, 
>
> Thanks for the workaround. 
> Yes, it works, not only in my MTC but also in my TW with 20+ plugins. 
> Anyhow, I still use ToggleTagPlugin to enable/disable the TableEditor. 
> May be it is an idea to let the plugin make a shadow tiddler where you 
> can put in all configuration options including enable/disable of the 
> TableEditor itself. 
> Just as is done in YourSearchPlugin [1] where there is the shadow 
> tiddler "YourSearch Options". 
>
> Cheers, 
>
> Ton 
>
> [1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin[1] 
> http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin 
>
> On Sep 24, 7:44 am, Vincent Yeh <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > Ton, 
> > 
> > Fortunately it didn't take me too much time to figure a workaround, 
> > although the actual reason remains unclear to me... 
> > 
> > TableEditor v1.3.8 
> > 
> >    - (min version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN 
> >    - (full version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor 
> > 
> > Workarounds on the autosave issue with YourSearchPlugin and the broken 
> link 
> > issue in multi-line mode. 
> > 
> > Have fun! 
> > 
> > Vincent 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:41:21 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: 
> > 
> > > Hi Vincent, 
> > 
> > > I found the conflicting plugin: YourSearchPlugin [1] from Udo 
> > > Borkowski (abego-software). 
> > > When TableEditor (v1.3.7) and YourSearchPlugin are both enabled 
> > > "autosave" does not work anymore. 
> > > With only TableEditor enabled or only YourSearchPlugin enabled 
> > > "autosave" does work as expected. 
> > > I made a Minimal Test Case [2]. 
> > 
> > > Cheers, 
> > 
> > > Ton 
> > 
> > > [1]http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin 
> > > [2]
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_137_YourSearch.html 
> > 
> > > On Sep 22, 7:17 pm, Vincent Yeh <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > > > Ton, 
> > 
> > > > On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: 
> > 
> > > > > Hi Vincent, 
> > 
> > > > > The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things: 
> > > > > 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 
> 'overlay 
> > > > > problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so 
> the 
> > > > > table and text overlay. 
> > 
> > > > That could be the resiziong bug I found lately. I should have fixed 
> it 
> > > in 
> > > > v1.3.7. Are you still having this problem with the latest version? 
> > 
> > > > > I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After 
> disabling 
> > > > > the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the 
> > > > > offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem 
> did 
> > > > > not show up anymore! 
> > > > > Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening 
> (for 
> > > > > editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter 
> canceling 
> > > > > editing restores a "good" display. I assume a rendering problem. 
> > 
> > > > I had such experiences myself a few times, but it all came back 
> normal 
> > > > after relaunching the browser. I am guessing it could be the browser 
> or 
> > > > some deeply hidden bug that I haven't found. Not sure about this 
> yet. 
> > 
> > > > > 2) In the same TW "autosave" does not work anymore when the 
> > > > > TableEditor is enabled. 
> > > > > I use "config.options.chkAutoSave = true;" in a "systemConfig" 
> tagged 
> > > > > tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the 
> TableEditor 
> > > > > plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore. 
> > > > > I tried "config.options.chkAutoSave : true" in SystemSettings but 
> that 
> > > > > did not work either; no "autosave" anymore with TableEditor 
> enabled. 
> > > > > Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr 
> [2] 
> > > > > by Jon Robson (which both use "autoSaveChanges" as well) did not 
> help 
> > > > > either. 
> > > > > I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a 
> > > > > workaround. Now I can toggle the "systemConfig" tag to enable the 
> > > > > TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled "autosave" works as 
> > > > > expected. 
> > 
> > > > One possibility is that the chkTEditorManualSave option is 
> interfering 
> > > with 
> > > > the system autosave option. Maybe I should remove this option and 
> just 
> > > use 
> > > > the system option? Another possibility is the TableEditor is 
> conflicting 
> > > > with some plugin that also hijacks the saveChanges() function. You 
> can 
> > > try 
> > > > to find one that does so and I'll try to find out what's going 
> wrong. 
> > 
> > > > > Cheers, 
> > 
> > > > > Ton 
> > 
> > > > > [1]http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin 
> > > > > [2]http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr 
> > > > > [3]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin 
> > 
> > > > Let's keep having fun! 
> > 
> > > > Vincent 
> > 
> > > > > On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov <[email protected]> 
> wrote: 
> > > > > > Hello Vincent, 
> > 
> > > > > > sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll 
> > > return to 
> > > > > > consistent testing in several days. 
> > 
> > > > > > Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's 
> > > better to 
> > > > > > investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see 
> > > anything at 
> > > > > > [1]? 
> > 
> > > > > > As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably 
> > > should 
> > > > > try 
> > > > > > iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 
> Eric's 
> > > > > > transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside 
> > > menus 
> > > > > which 
> > > > > > bothers you? 
> > 
> > > > > > Best regards, 
> > > > > > Yakov. 
> > 
> > > > > > [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/ 
> > > > > > [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/ 
> > > > > > [3]
> http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar 
> > 
> > > > > > понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь 
> Vincent 
> > > Yeh 
> > > > > > написал: 
> > 
> > > > > > > Yakov, 
> > 
> > > > > > > I keep getting an error saying "access forbidden" clicking the 
> > > link 
> > > > > below. 
> > > > > > > Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots 
> here? 
> > 
> > > > > > > I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of 
> the 
> > > > > features 
> > > > > > > working while others not, but the screen is just too small to 
> do 
> > > any 
> > > > > useful 
> > > > > > > test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky? 
> > > I'll 
> > > > > use a 
> > > > > > > larger one to test when I have a chance. 
> > 
> > > > > > > FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't 
> > > found 
> > > > > one 
> > > > > > > Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet. 
> > 
> > > > > > > Cheers 
> > 
> > > > > > > Vincent 
> > 
> > > > > > > On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: 
> > 
> > > > > > >> Hello Vincent, 
> > 
> > > > > > >> thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed 
> in 
> > > the 
> > > > > > >> mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, 
> > > Chrome 
> > > > > 21.0 
> > > > > > >> (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the "E" button in 
> > > tables 
> > > > > without 
> > > > > > >> a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki 
> (which is 
> > > > > more 
> > > > > > >> painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app.. 
> > 
> > > > > > >> A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide 
> the 
> > > code 
> > > > > > >> using the following wrapper: 
> > 
> > > > > > >> /*** 
> > > > > > >> [the header of the plugin, other visible things like Options] 
> > > > > > >> /% 
> > > > > > >> ***/ 
> > > > > > >>      [code here] 
> > > > > > >> /*** 
> > > > > > >> %/ 
> > > > > > >> ***/ 
> > 
> > > > > > >> As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but 
> found 
> > > that 
> > > > > > >> <<tiddler ..>> macro gets an error if used with section which 
> > > > > contains a 
> > > > > > >> table:  <<tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with a 
> > > > > table]]>>. 
> > > > > > >> Simple transclusion test works: I put a table in one tiddler, 
> > > > > transcluded 
> > > > > > >> it into another, edited the table there, no errors, content 
> of 
> > > the 
> > > > > first 
> > > > > > >> tiddler is changed. The only note is if the first tiddler is 
> > > opened 
> > > > > at the 
> > > > > > >> same time, its representation is not refreshed (the table is 
> > > shown as 
> > > > > it 
> > > > > > >> was before editing). 
> > 
> > > > > > >> I also did a test with merged cells ("|>|one long cell|", 
> "|one 
> > > high 
> > > > > > >> cell|\n|~|") and it seems that everything works fine. 
> > 
> > > > > > >> Is it "cut-and-past the whole column to the one next" you are 
> > > talking 
> > > > > > >>> about? 
> > 
> > > > > > >> If so then I'd rather just do the cut-and-past alone (not 
> yet, 
> > > > > though). 
> > > > > > >>> If I am misunderstanding, please tell me more about it. 
> > 
> > > > > > >> I mean if a table has colomns A, B, C, D, shifting C to the 
> left 
> > > is 
> > > > > > >> changing the table so that it has A, C, B, D, and then C, A, 
> B, 
> > > D. It 
> > > > > is 
> > > > > > >> close to copy+paste, just means cutting/pasting of the whole 
> > > colomn 
> > > > > > >> (instead of its content as it is done in office-like apps, so 
> > > that 
> > > > > one 
> > > > > > >> needs to delete the colomn after cutting the content and 
> create a 
> > > new 
> > > > > > >> colomn before inserting the content). Less efforts for such 
> > > manual 
> > > > > sorting 
> > > > > > >> would be nice. 
> > 
> > > > > > >> As for the behavior in AndTidWiki (it's an Android app which 
> acts 
> > > as 
> > > > > a 
> > > > > > >> TiddlySaver.jar), I made a bunch of screenshots [1]. Sorry, I 
> > > haven't 
> > > > > > >> studied any tool which creates a photo gallery, so there are 
> just 
> > > > > files at 
> > > > > > >> [1]; though, I made a zip file so that you can download them 
> at 
> > > once. 
> > > > > The 
> > > > > > >> sequence is approximately the same as I reported previously. 
> > > Watch 
> > > > > the top 
> > > > > > >> table (two others are without names, so are not editable in 
> > > > > AndTidWiki), 
> > > > > > >> the names of the pictures say what is done before each 
> screenshot 
> > > is 
> > > > > taken. 
> > 
> > > > > > >> [1] 
> > >http://yakovl.bplaced.net/materials/TW/table%20editor%20report/ 
> > 
> > > > > >  table editor report.zip 
> > > > > > 1757KViewDownload 
>

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