Hi Vincent,

Thanks for the workaround.
Yes, it works, not only in my MTC but also in my TW with 20+ plugins.
Anyhow, I still use ToggleTagPlugin to enable/disable the TableEditor.
May be it is an idea to let the plugin make a shadow tiddler where you
can put in all configuration options including enable/disable of the
TableEditor itself.
Just as is done in YourSearchPlugin [1] where there is the shadow
tiddler "YourSearch Options".

Cheers,

Ton

[1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin[1]
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin

On Sep 24, 7:44 am, Vincent Yeh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ton,
>
> Fortunately it didn't take me too much time to figure a workaround,
> although the actual reason remains unclear to me...
>
> TableEditor v1.3.8
>
>    - (min version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN
>    - (full version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor
>
> Workarounds on the autosave issue with YourSearchPlugin and the broken link
> issue in multi-line mode.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:41:21 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> > Hi Vincent,
>
> > I found the conflicting plugin: YourSearchPlugin [1] from Udo
> > Borkowski (abego-software).
> > When TableEditor (v1.3.7) and YourSearchPlugin are both enabled
> > "autosave" does not work anymore.
> > With only TableEditor enabled or only YourSearchPlugin enabled
> > "autosave" does work as expected.
> > I made a Minimal Test Case [2].
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Ton
>
> > [1]http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin
> > [2]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_137_YourSearch.html
>
> > On Sep 22, 7:17 pm, Vincent Yeh <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Ton,
>
> > > On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Vincent,
>
> > > > The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things:
> > > > 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay
> > > > problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the
> > > > table and text overlay.
>
> > > That could be the resiziong bug I found lately. I should have fixed it
> > in
> > > v1.3.7. Are you still having this problem with the latest version?
>
> > > > I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling
> > > > the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the
> > > > offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did
> > > > not show up anymore!
> > > > Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for
> > > > editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling
> > > > editing restores a "good" display. I assume a rendering problem.
>
> > > I had such experiences myself a few times, but it all came back normal
> > > after relaunching the browser. I am guessing it could be the browser or
> > > some deeply hidden bug that I haven't found. Not sure about this yet.
>
> > > > 2) In the same TW "autosave" does not work anymore when the
> > > > TableEditor is enabled.
> > > > I use "config.options.chkAutoSave = true;" in a "systemConfig" tagged
> > > > tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor
> > > > plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore.
> > > > I tried "config.options.chkAutoSave : true" in SystemSettings but that
> > > > did not work either; no "autosave" anymore with TableEditor enabled.
> > > > Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr [2]
> > > > by Jon Robson (which both use "autoSaveChanges" as well) did not help
> > > > either.
> > > > I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a
> > > > workaround. Now I can toggle the "systemConfig" tag to enable the
> > > > TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled "autosave" works as
> > > > expected.
>
> > > One possibility is that the chkTEditorManualSave option is interfering
> > with
> > > the system autosave option. Maybe I should remove this option and just
> > use
> > > the system option? Another possibility is the TableEditor is conflicting
> > > with some plugin that also hijacks the saveChanges() function. You can
> > try
> > > to find one that does so and I'll try to find out what's going wrong.
>
> > > > Cheers,
>
> > > > Ton
>
> > > > [1]http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin
> > > > [2]http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr
> > > > [3]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin
>
> > > Let's keep having fun!
>
> > > Vincent
>
> > > > On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Hello Vincent,
>
> > > > > sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll
> > return to
> > > > > consistent testing in several days.
>
> > > > > Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's
> > better to
> > > > > investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see
> > anything at
> > > > > [1]?
>
> > > > > As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably
> > should
> > > > try
> > > > > iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's
> > > > > transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside
> > menus
> > > > which
> > > > > bothers you?
>
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Yakov.
>
> > > > > [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/
> > > > > [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/
> > > > > [3]http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar
>
> > > > > понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent
> > Yeh
> > > > > написал:
>
> > > > > > Yakov,
>
> > > > > > I keep getting an error saying "access forbidden" clicking the
> > link
> > > > below.
> > > > > > Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots here?
>
> > > > > > I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of the
> > > > features
> > > > > > working while others not, but the screen is just too small to do
> > any
> > > > useful
> > > > > > test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky?
> > I'll
> > > > use a
> > > > > > larger one to test when I have a chance.
>
> > > > > > FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't
> > found
> > > > one
> > > > > > Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet.
>
> > > > > > Cheers
>
> > > > > > Vincent
>
> > > > > > On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:
>
> > > > > >> Hello Vincent,
>
> > > > > >> thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed in
> > the
> > > > > >> mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand,
> > Chrome
> > > > 21.0
> > > > > >> (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the "E" button in
> > tables
> > > > without
> > > > > >> a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki (which is
> > > > more
> > > > > >> painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app..
>
> > > > > >> A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide the
> > code
> > > > > >> using the following wrapper:
>
> > > > > >> /***
> > > > > >> [the header of the plugin, other visible things like Options]
> > > > > >> /%
> > > > > >> ***/
> > > > > >>      [code here]
> > > > > >> /***
> > > > > >> %/
> > > > > >> ***/
>
> > > > > >> As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but found
> > that
> > > > > >> <<tiddler ..>> macro gets an error if used with section which
> > > > contains a
> > > > > >> table:  <<tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with a
> > > > table]]>>.
> > > > > >> Simple transclusion test works: I put a table in one tiddler,
> > > > transcluded
> > > > > >> it into another, edited the table there, no errors, content of
> > the
> > > > first
> > > > > >> tiddler is changed. The only note is if the first tiddler is
> > opened
> > > > at the
> > > > > >> same time, its representation is not refreshed (the table is
> > shown as
> > > > it
> > > > > >> was before editing).
>
> > > > > >> I also did a test with merged cells ("|>|one long cell|", "|one
> > high
> > > > > >> cell|\n|~|") and it seems that everything works fine.
>
> > > > > >> Is it "cut-and-past the whole column to the one next" you are
> > talking
> > > > > >>> about?
>
> > > > > >> If so then I'd rather just do the cut-and-past alone (not yet,
> > > > though).
> > > > > >>> If I am misunderstanding, please tell me more about it.
>
> > > > > >> I mean if a table has colomns A, B, C, D, shifting C to the left
> > is
> > > > > >> changing the table so that it has A, C, B, D, and then C, A, B,
> > D. It
> > > > is
> > > > > >> close to copy+paste, just means cutting/pasting of the whole
> > colomn
> > > > > >> (instead of its content as it is done in office-like apps, so
> > that
> > > > one
> > > > > >> needs to delete the colomn after cutting the content and create a
> > new
> > > > > >> colomn before inserting the content). Less efforts for such
> > manual
> > > > sorting
> > > > > >> would be nice.
>
> > > > > >> As for the behavior in AndTidWiki (it's an Android app which acts
> > as
> > > > a
> > > > > >> TiddlySaver.jar), I made a bunch of screenshots [1]. Sorry, I
> > haven't
> > > > > >> studied any tool which creates a photo gallery, so there are just
> > > > files at
> > > > > >> [1]; though, I made a zip file so that you can download them at
> > once.
> > > > The
> > > > > >> sequence is approximately the same as I reported previously.
> > Watch
> > > > the top
> > > > > >> table (two others are without names, so are not editable in
> > > > AndTidWiki),
> > > > > >> the names of the pictures say what is done before each screenshot
> > is
> > > > taken.
>
> > > > > >> [1]
> >http://yakovl.bplaced.net/materials/TW/table%20editor%20report/
>
> > > > >  table editor report.zip
> > > > > 1757KViewDownload

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