Ton,

The saveChange bug turned out to be a silly mistake of mine! Thanks for the 
info. But the FF15/Win7 issue is still far from me for the same browser/OS 
combo works here. Maybe you can tell me what addons you have so I can get 
them installed and try?

TableEditor v1.3.10

   - (min version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN
   - (full version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor

Changes made:

   - Fixed the saveChange()-not-functioning bug when TableEditor is 
   disabled.
   - Set to true the spellcheck property of the edit box, making use of the 
   spell-checking feature in HTML5.
   - Larger font-size in table caption if given.
   - Added option chkTEditorClickAway to toggle the "click-away-to-accept" 
   behavior.
      - This could be convenient when one needs to hop between windows to 
      read and take notes.
   

Vincent

On Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:53:17 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> Hi Vincent,
>
> I tried your configuration option but can't get it to work.
> I do not get configuration options when I click the 'C' button 
> (FF15/Win7). The only effect I see when I click 'C': the 'E' button dims!
>
> But with IE9, Google Chrome 17 portable it works! With a fresh FF15 
> portable it works as well.
> I tried diasbling all add-ons in my (installed) FF to no avail. May be it 
> is something in my profile.
>
> I tested further with FF15 portable.
> When I disable the Table editor, autosave did not work anynmore but even 
> manual saving (button 'save changes') was impossible!
> The same holds for IE9 and Google Chrome 17 portable. See MTC [1].
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
> [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_139.html
>
> On Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:43:19 AM UTC+2, Vincent Yeh wrote:
>>
>> Ton,
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions. I have added an option to enable/disable the 
>> plugin, also a popup for easy configuration for the plugin.
>>
>> TableEditor v1.3.9
>>
>>    - (min version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN
>>    - (full version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor
>>
>> Main thing is a popup for easy configuration of the plugin. Press the 'C' 
>> button to bring it up. Note that if you disable the plugin, you'll need to 
>> go AdvancedOptions shadow tiddler to re-enable it.
>> There is an option to enable/disable transposition of a table for 
>> interested people. Seems to work.
>>
>> Have Fun!
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>> On Monday, September 24, 2012 7:17:57 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Vincent, 
>>>
>>> Thanks for the workaround. 
>>> Yes, it works, not only in my MTC but also in my TW with 20+ plugins. 
>>> Anyhow, I still use ToggleTagPlugin to enable/disable the TableEditor. 
>>> May be it is an idea to let the plugin make a shadow tiddler where you 
>>> can put in all configuration options including enable/disable of the 
>>> TableEditor itself. 
>>> Just as is done in YourSearchPlugin [1] where there is the shadow 
>>> tiddler "YourSearch Options". 
>>>
>>> Cheers, 
>>>
>>> Ton 
>>>
>>> [1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin[1] 
>>> http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin 
>>>
>>> On Sep 24, 7:44 am, Vincent Yeh <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>> > Ton, 
>>> > 
>>> > Fortunately it didn't take me too much time to figure a workaround, 
>>> > although the actual reason remains unclear to me... 
>>> > 
>>> > TableEditor v1.3.8 
>>> > 
>>> >    - (min version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN 
>>> >    - (full version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor 
>>> > 
>>> > Workarounds on the autosave issue with YourSearchPlugin and the broken 
>>> link 
>>> > issue in multi-line mode. 
>>> > 
>>> > Have fun! 
>>> > 
>>> > Vincent 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:41:21 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > > Hi Vincent, 
>>> > 
>>> > > I found the conflicting plugin: YourSearchPlugin [1] from Udo 
>>> > > Borkowski (abego-software). 
>>> > > When TableEditor (v1.3.7) and YourSearchPlugin are both enabled 
>>> > > "autosave" does not work anymore. 
>>> > > With only TableEditor enabled or only YourSearchPlugin enabled 
>>> > > "autosave" does work as expected. 
>>> > > I made a Minimal Test Case [2]. 
>>> > 
>>> > > Cheers, 
>>> > 
>>> > > Ton 
>>> > 
>>> > > [1]http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin 
>>> > > [2]
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_137_YourSearch.html 
>>> > 
>>> > > On Sep 22, 7:17 pm, Vincent Yeh <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>> > > > Ton, 
>>> > 
>>> > > > On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > Hi Vincent, 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things: 
>>> > > > > 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 
>>> 'overlay 
>>> > > > > problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top 
>>> so the 
>>> > > > > table and text overlay. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > That could be the resiziong bug I found lately. I should have 
>>> fixed it 
>>> > > in 
>>> > > > v1.3.7. Are you still having this problem with the latest version? 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After 
>>> disabling 
>>> > > > > the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found 
>>> the 
>>> > > > > offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the 
>>> problem did 
>>> > > > > not show up anymore! 
>>> > > > > Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening 
>>> (for 
>>> > > > > editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter 
>>> canceling 
>>> > > > > editing restores a "good" display. I assume a rendering problem. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > I had such experiences myself a few times, but it all came back 
>>> normal 
>>> > > > after relaunching the browser. I am guessing it could be the 
>>> browser or 
>>> > > > some deeply hidden bug that I haven't found. Not sure about this 
>>> yet. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > 2) In the same TW "autosave" does not work anymore when the 
>>> > > > > TableEditor is enabled. 
>>> > > > > I use "config.options.chkAutoSave = true;" in a "systemConfig" 
>>> tagged 
>>> > > > > tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the 
>>> TableEditor 
>>> > > > > plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore. 
>>> > > > > I tried "config.options.chkAutoSave : true" in SystemSettings 
>>> but that 
>>> > > > > did not work either; no "autosave" anymore with TableEditor 
>>> enabled. 
>>> > > > > Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and 
>>> TiddlyFileImportr [2] 
>>> > > > > by Jon Robson (which both use "autoSaveChanges" as well) did not 
>>> help 
>>> > > > > either. 
>>> > > > > I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a 
>>> > > > > workaround. Now I can toggle the "systemConfig" tag to enable 
>>> the 
>>> > > > > TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled "autosave" works as 
>>> > > > > expected. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > One possibility is that the chkTEditorManualSave option is 
>>> interfering 
>>> > > with 
>>> > > > the system autosave option. Maybe I should remove this option and 
>>> just 
>>> > > use 
>>> > > > the system option? Another possibility is the TableEditor is 
>>> conflicting 
>>> > > > with some plugin that also hijacks the saveChanges() function. You 
>>> can 
>>> > > try 
>>> > > > to find one that does so and I'll try to find out what's going 
>>> wrong. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > Cheers, 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > Ton 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > [1]http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin 
>>> > > > > [2]http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr 
>>> > > > > [3]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin 
>>> > 
>>> > > > Let's keep having fun! 
>>> > 
>>> > > > Vincent 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote: 
>>> > > > > > Hello Vincent, 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll 
>>> > > return to 
>>> > > > > > consistent testing in several days. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's 
>>> > > better to 
>>> > > > > > investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see 
>>> > > anything at 
>>> > > > > > [1]? 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you 
>>> probably 
>>> > > should 
>>> > > > > try 
>>> > > > > > iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 
>>> Eric's 
>>> > > > > > transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something 
>>> aside 
>>> > > menus 
>>> > > > > which 
>>> > > > > > bothers you? 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > Best regards, 
>>> > > > > > Yakov. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/ 
>>> > > > > > [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/ 
>>> > > > > > [3]
>>> http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь 
>>> Vincent 
>>> > > Yeh 
>>> > > > > > написал: 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > > Yakov, 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > > I keep getting an error saying "access forbidden" clicking 
>>> the 
>>> > > link 
>>> > > > > below. 
>>> > > > > > > Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots 
>>> here? 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > > I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of 
>>> the 
>>> > > > > features 
>>> > > > > > > working while others not, but the screen is just too small 
>>> to do 
>>> > > any 
>>> > > > > useful 
>>> > > > > > > test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for 
>>> AndTidWikky? 
>>> > > I'll 
>>> > > > > use a 
>>> > > > > > > larger one to test when I have a chance. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > > FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I 
>>> haven't 
>>> > > found 
>>> > > > > one 
>>> > > > > > > Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > > Cheers 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > > Vincent 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > > On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov 
>>> wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > >> Hello Vincent, 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > >> thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed 
>>> in 
>>> > > the 
>>> > > > > > >> mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, 
>>> > > Chrome 
>>> > > > > 21.0 
>>> > > > > > >> (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the "E" button 
>>> in 
>>> > > tables 
>>> > > > > without 
>>> > > > > > >> a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki 
>>> (which is 
>>> > > > > more 
>>> > > > > > >> painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app.. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > >> A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide 
>>> the 
>>> > > code 
>>> > > > > > >> using the following wrapper: 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > >> /*** 
>>> > > > > > >> [the header of the plugin, other visible things like 
>>> Options] 
>>> > > > > > >> /% 
>>> > > > > > >> ***/ 
>>> > > > > > >>      [code here] 
>>> > > > > > >> /*** 
>>> > > > > > >> %/ 
>>> > > > > > >> ***/ 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > >> As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but 
>>> found 
>>> > > that 
>>> > > > > > >> <<tiddler ..>> macro gets an error if used with section 
>>> which 
>>> > > > > contains a 
>>> > > > > > >> table:  <<tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with 
>>> a 
>>> > > > > table]]>>. 
>>> > > > > > >> Simple transclusion test works: I put a table in one 
>>> tiddler, 
>>> > > > > transcluded 
>>> > > > > > >> it into another, edited the table there, no errors, content 
>>> of 
>>> > > the 
>>> > > > > first 
>>> > > > > > >> tiddler is changed. The only note is if the first tiddler 
>>> is 
>>> > > opened 
>>> > > > > at the 
>>> > > > > > >> same time, its representation is not refreshed (the table 
>>> is 
>>> > > shown as 
>>> > > > > it 
>>> > > > > > >> was before editing). 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > >> I also did a test with merged cells ("|>|one long cell|", 
>>> "|one 
>>> > > high 
>>> > > > > > >> cell|\n|~|") and it seems that everything works fine. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > >> Is it "cut-and-past the whole column to the one next" you 
>>> are 
>>> > > talking 
>>> > > > > > >>> about? 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > >> If so then I'd rather just do the cut-and-past alone (not 
>>> yet, 
>>> > > > > though). 
>>> > > > > > >>> If I am misunderstanding, please tell me more about it. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > >> I mean if a table has colomns A, B, C, D, shifting C to the 
>>> left 
>>> > > is 
>>> > > > > > >> changing the table so that it has A, C, B, D, and then C, 
>>> A, B, 
>>> > > D. It 
>>> > > > > is 
>>> > > > > > >> close to copy+paste, just means cutting/pasting of the 
>>> whole 
>>> > > colomn 
>>> > > > > > >> (instead of its content as it is done in office-like apps, 
>>> so 
>>> > > that 
>>> > > > > one 
>>> > > > > > >> needs to delete the colomn after cutting the content and 
>>> create a 
>>> > > new 
>>> > > > > > >> colomn before inserting the content). Less efforts for such 
>>> > > manual 
>>> > > > > sorting 
>>> > > > > > >> would be nice. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > >> As for the behavior in AndTidWiki (it's an Android app 
>>> which acts 
>>> > > as 
>>> > > > > a 
>>> > > > > > >> TiddlySaver.jar), I made a bunch of screenshots [1]. Sorry, 
>>> I 
>>> > > haven't 
>>> > > > > > >> studied any tool which creates a photo gallery, so there 
>>> are just 
>>> > > > > files at 
>>> > > > > > >> [1]; though, I made a zip file so that you can download 
>>> them at 
>>> > > once. 
>>> > > > > The 
>>> > > > > > >> sequence is approximately the same as I reported 
>>> previously. 
>>> > > Watch 
>>> > > > > the top 
>>> > > > > > >> table (two others are without names, so are not editable in 
>>> > > > > AndTidWiki), 
>>> > > > > > >> the names of the pictures say what is done before each 
>>> screenshot 
>>> > > is 
>>> > > > > taken. 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > > >> [1] 
>>> > >http://yakovl.bplaced.net/materials/TW/table%20editor%20report/ 
>>> > 
>>> > > > > >  table editor report.zip 
>>> > > > > > 1757KViewDownload 
>>>
>>

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