Hi Vincent,

I tried your configuration option but can't get it to work.
I do not get configuration options when I click the 'C' button (FF15/Win7). 
The only effect I see when I click 'C': the 'E' button dims!

But with IE9, Google Chrome 17 portable it works! With a fresh FF15 
portable it works as well.
I tried diasbling all add-ons in my (installed) FF to no avail. May be it 
is something in my profile.

I tested further with FF15 portable.
When I disable the Table editor, autosave did not work anynmore but even 
manual saving (button 'save changes') was impossible!
The same holds for IE9 and Google Chrome 17 portable. See MTC [1].

Cheers,

Ton

[1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_139.html

On Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:43:19 AM UTC+2, Vincent Yeh wrote:
>
> Ton,
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I have added an option to enable/disable the 
> plugin, also a popup for easy configuration for the plugin.
>
> TableEditor v1.3.9
>
>    - (min version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN
>    - (full version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor
>
> Main thing is a popup for easy configuration of the plugin. Press the 'C' 
> button to bring it up. Note that if you disable the plugin, you'll need to 
> go AdvancedOptions shadow tiddler to re-enable it.
> There is an option to enable/disable transposition of a table for 
> interested people. Seems to work.
>
> Have Fun!
>
> Vincent
>
> On Monday, September 24, 2012 7:17:57 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>>
>> Hi Vincent, 
>>
>> Thanks for the workaround. 
>> Yes, it works, not only in my MTC but also in my TW with 20+ plugins. 
>> Anyhow, I still use ToggleTagPlugin to enable/disable the TableEditor. 
>> May be it is an idea to let the plugin make a shadow tiddler where you 
>> can put in all configuration options including enable/disable of the 
>> TableEditor itself. 
>> Just as is done in YourSearchPlugin [1] where there is the shadow 
>> tiddler "YourSearch Options". 
>>
>> Cheers, 
>>
>> Ton 
>>
>> [1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin[1] 
>> http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin 
>>
>> On Sep 24, 7:44 am, Vincent Yeh <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> > Ton, 
>> > 
>> > Fortunately it didn't take me too much time to figure a workaround, 
>> > although the actual reason remains unclear to me... 
>> > 
>> > TableEditor v1.3.8 
>> > 
>> >    - (min version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN 
>> >    - (full version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor 
>> > 
>> > Workarounds on the autosave issue with YourSearchPlugin and the broken 
>> link 
>> > issue in multi-line mode. 
>> > 
>> > Have fun! 
>> > 
>> > Vincent 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:41:21 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: 
>> > 
>> > > Hi Vincent, 
>> > 
>> > > I found the conflicting plugin: YourSearchPlugin [1] from Udo 
>> > > Borkowski (abego-software). 
>> > > When TableEditor (v1.3.7) and YourSearchPlugin are both enabled 
>> > > "autosave" does not work anymore. 
>> > > With only TableEditor enabled or only YourSearchPlugin enabled 
>> > > "autosave" does work as expected. 
>> > > I made a Minimal Test Case [2]. 
>> > 
>> > > Cheers, 
>> > 
>> > > Ton 
>> > 
>> > > [1]http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin 
>> > > [2]
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_137_YourSearch.html 
>> > 
>> > > On Sep 22, 7:17 pm, Vincent Yeh <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> > > > Ton, 
>> > 
>> > > > On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: 
>> > 
>> > > > > Hi Vincent, 
>> > 
>> > > > > The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things: 
>> > > > > 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 
>> 'overlay 
>> > > > > problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top 
>> so the 
>> > > > > table and text overlay. 
>> > 
>> > > > That could be the resiziong bug I found lately. I should have fixed 
>> it 
>> > > in 
>> > > > v1.3.7. Are you still having this problem with the latest version? 
>> > 
>> > > > > I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After 
>> disabling 
>> > > > > the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the 
>> > > > > offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem 
>> did 
>> > > > > not show up anymore! 
>> > > > > Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening 
>> (for 
>> > > > > editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter 
>> canceling 
>> > > > > editing restores a "good" display. I assume a rendering problem. 
>> > 
>> > > > I had such experiences myself a few times, but it all came back 
>> normal 
>> > > > after relaunching the browser. I am guessing it could be the 
>> browser or 
>> > > > some deeply hidden bug that I haven't found. Not sure about this 
>> yet. 
>> > 
>> > > > > 2) In the same TW "autosave" does not work anymore when the 
>> > > > > TableEditor is enabled. 
>> > > > > I use "config.options.chkAutoSave = true;" in a "systemConfig" 
>> tagged 
>> > > > > tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the 
>> TableEditor 
>> > > > > plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore. 
>> > > > > I tried "config.options.chkAutoSave : true" in SystemSettings but 
>> that 
>> > > > > did not work either; no "autosave" anymore with TableEditor 
>> enabled. 
>> > > > > Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and 
>> TiddlyFileImportr [2] 
>> > > > > by Jon Robson (which both use "autoSaveChanges" as well) did not 
>> help 
>> > > > > either. 
>> > > > > I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a 
>> > > > > workaround. Now I can toggle the "systemConfig" tag to enable the 
>> > > > > TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled "autosave" works as 
>> > > > > expected. 
>> > 
>> > > > One possibility is that the chkTEditorManualSave option is 
>> interfering 
>> > > with 
>> > > > the system autosave option. Maybe I should remove this option and 
>> just 
>> > > use 
>> > > > the system option? Another possibility is the TableEditor is 
>> conflicting 
>> > > > with some plugin that also hijacks the saveChanges() function. You 
>> can 
>> > > try 
>> > > > to find one that does so and I'll try to find out what's going 
>> wrong. 
>> > 
>> > > > > Cheers, 
>> > 
>> > > > > Ton 
>> > 
>> > > > > [1]http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin 
>> > > > > [2]http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr 
>> > > > > [3]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin 
>> > 
>> > > > Let's keep having fun! 
>> > 
>> > > > Vincent 
>> > 
>> > > > > On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov <[email protected]> 
>> wrote: 
>> > > > > > Hello Vincent, 
>> > 
>> > > > > > sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll 
>> > > return to 
>> > > > > > consistent testing in several days. 
>> > 
>> > > > > > Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's 
>> > > better to 
>> > > > > > investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see 
>> > > anything at 
>> > > > > > [1]? 
>> > 
>> > > > > > As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably 
>> > > should 
>> > > > > try 
>> > > > > > iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 
>> Eric's 
>> > > > > > transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside 
>> > > menus 
>> > > > > which 
>> > > > > > bothers you? 
>> > 
>> > > > > > Best regards, 
>> > > > > > Yakov. 
>> > 
>> > > > > > [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/ 
>> > > > > > [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/ 
>> > > > > > [3]
>> http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar 
>> > 
>> > > > > > понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь 
>> Vincent 
>> > > Yeh 
>> > > > > > написал: 
>> > 
>> > > > > > > Yakov, 
>> > 
>> > > > > > > I keep getting an error saying "access forbidden" clicking 
>> the 
>> > > link 
>> > > > > below. 
>> > > > > > > Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots 
>> here? 
>> > 
>> > > > > > > I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of 
>> the 
>> > > > > features 
>> > > > > > > working while others not, but the screen is just too small to 
>> do 
>> > > any 
>> > > > > useful 
>> > > > > > > test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for 
>> AndTidWikky? 
>> > > I'll 
>> > > > > use a 
>> > > > > > > larger one to test when I have a chance. 
>> > 
>> > > > > > > FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I 
>> haven't 
>> > > found 
>> > > > > one 
>> > > > > > > Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet. 
>> > 
>> > > > > > > Cheers 
>> > 
>> > > > > > > Vincent 
>> > 
>> > > > > > > On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov 
>> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > > > > > >> Hello Vincent, 
>> > 
>> > > > > > >> thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed 
>> in 
>> > > the 
>> > > > > > >> mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, 
>> > > Chrome 
>> > > > > 21.0 
>> > > > > > >> (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the "E" button in 
>> > > tables 
>> > > > > without 
>> > > > > > >> a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki 
>> (which is 
>> > > > > more 
>> > > > > > >> painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app.. 
>> > 
>> > > > > > >> A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide 
>> the 
>> > > code 
>> > > > > > >> using the following wrapper: 
>> > 
>> > > > > > >> /*** 
>> > > > > > >> [the header of the plugin, other visible things like 
>> Options] 
>> > > > > > >> /% 
>> > > > > > >> ***/ 
>> > > > > > >>      [code here] 
>> > > > > > >> /*** 
>> > > > > > >> %/ 
>> > > > > > >> ***/ 
>> > 
>> > > > > > >> As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but 
>> found 
>> > > that 
>> > > > > > >> <<tiddler ..>> macro gets an error if used with section 
>> which 
>> > > > > contains a 
>> > > > > > >> table:  <<tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with 
>> a 
>> > > > > table]]>>. 
>> > > > > > >> Simple transclusion test works: I put a table in one 
>> tiddler, 
>> > > > > transcluded 
>> > > > > > >> it into another, edited the table there, no errors, content 
>> of 
>> > > the 
>> > > > > first 
>> > > > > > >> tiddler is changed. The only note is if the first tiddler is 
>> > > opened 
>> > > > > at the 
>> > > > > > >> same time, its representation is not refreshed (the table is 
>> > > shown as 
>> > > > > it 
>> > > > > > >> was before editing). 
>> > 
>> > > > > > >> I also did a test with merged cells ("|>|one long cell|", 
>> "|one 
>> > > high 
>> > > > > > >> cell|\n|~|") and it seems that everything works fine. 
>> > 
>> > > > > > >> Is it "cut-and-past the whole column to the one next" you 
>> are 
>> > > talking 
>> > > > > > >>> about? 
>> > 
>> > > > > > >> If so then I'd rather just do the cut-and-past alone (not 
>> yet, 
>> > > > > though). 
>> > > > > > >>> If I am misunderstanding, please tell me more about it. 
>> > 
>> > > > > > >> I mean if a table has colomns A, B, C, D, shifting C to the 
>> left 
>> > > is 
>> > > > > > >> changing the table so that it has A, C, B, D, and then C, A, 
>> B, 
>> > > D. It 
>> > > > > is 
>> > > > > > >> close to copy+paste, just means cutting/pasting of the whole 
>> > > colomn 
>> > > > > > >> (instead of its content as it is done in office-like apps, 
>> so 
>> > > that 
>> > > > > one 
>> > > > > > >> needs to delete the colomn after cutting the content and 
>> create a 
>> > > new 
>> > > > > > >> colomn before inserting the content). Less efforts for such 
>> > > manual 
>> > > > > sorting 
>> > > > > > >> would be nice. 
>> > 
>> > > > > > >> As for the behavior in AndTidWiki (it's an Android app which 
>> acts 
>> > > as 
>> > > > > a 
>> > > > > > >> TiddlySaver.jar), I made a bunch of screenshots [1]. Sorry, 
>> I 
>> > > haven't 
>> > > > > > >> studied any tool which creates a photo gallery, so there are 
>> just 
>> > > > > files at 
>> > > > > > >> [1]; though, I made a zip file so that you can download them 
>> at 
>> > > once. 
>> > > > > The 
>> > > > > > >> sequence is approximately the same as I reported previously. 
>> > > Watch 
>> > > > > the top 
>> > > > > > >> table (two others are without names, so are not editable in 
>> > > > > AndTidWiki), 
>> > > > > > >> the names of the pictures say what is done before each 
>> screenshot 
>> > > is 
>> > > > > taken. 
>> > 
>> > > > > > >> [1] 
>> > >http://yakovl.bplaced.net/materials/TW/table%20editor%20report/ 
>> > 
>> > > > > >  table editor report.zip 
>> > > > > > 1757KViewDownload 
>>
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