Ton,

Fortunately it didn't take me too much time to figure a workaround, 
although the actual reason remains unclear to me...

TableEditor v1.3.8

   - (min version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN
   - (full version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor

Workarounds on the autosave issue with YourSearchPlugin and the broken link 
issue in multi-line mode.

Have fun!

Vincent

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:41:21 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> Hi Vincent, 
>
> I found the conflicting plugin: YourSearchPlugin [1] from Udo 
> Borkowski (abego-software). 
> When TableEditor (v1.3.7) and YourSearchPlugin are both enabled 
> "autosave" does not work anymore. 
> With only TableEditor enabled or only YourSearchPlugin enabled 
> "autosave" does work as expected. 
> I made a Minimal Test Case [2]. 
>
> Cheers, 
>
> Ton 
>
>
> [1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin 
> [2] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_137_YourSearch.html 
>
> On Sep 22, 7:17 pm, Vincent Yeh <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > Ton, 
> > 
> > On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: 
> > 
> > > Hi Vincent, 
> > 
> > > The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things: 
> > > 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay 
> > > problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the 
> > > table and text overlay. 
> > 
> > That could be the resiziong bug I found lately. I should have fixed it 
> in 
> > v1.3.7. Are you still having this problem with the latest version? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling 
> > > the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the 
> > > offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did 
> > > not show up anymore! 
> > > Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for 
> > > editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling 
> > > editing restores a "good" display. I assume a rendering problem. 
> > 
> > I had such experiences myself a few times, but it all came back normal 
> > after relaunching the browser. I am guessing it could be the browser or 
> > some deeply hidden bug that I haven't found. Not sure about this yet. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 2) In the same TW "autosave" does not work anymore when the 
> > > TableEditor is enabled. 
> > > I use "config.options.chkAutoSave = true;" in a "systemConfig" tagged 
> > > tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor 
> > > plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore. 
> > > I tried "config.options.chkAutoSave : true" in SystemSettings but that 
> > > did not work either; no "autosave" anymore with TableEditor enabled. 
> > > Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr [2] 
> > > by Jon Robson (which both use "autoSaveChanges" as well) did not help 
> > > either. 
> > > I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a 
> > > workaround. Now I can toggle the "systemConfig" tag to enable the 
> > > TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled "autosave" works as 
> > > expected. 
> > 
> > One possibility is that the chkTEditorManualSave option is interfering 
> with 
> > the system autosave option. Maybe I should remove this option and just 
> use 
> > the system option? Another possibility is the TableEditor is conflicting 
> > with some plugin that also hijacks the saveChanges() function. You can 
> try 
> > to find one that does so and I'll try to find out what's going wrong. 
> > 
> > > Cheers, 
> > 
> > > Ton 
> > 
> > > [1]http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin 
> > > [2]http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr 
> > > [3]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin 
> > 
> > Let's keep having fun! 
> > 
> > Vincent 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > > > Hello Vincent, 
> > 
> > > > sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll 
> return to 
> > > > consistent testing in several days. 
> > 
> > > > Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's 
> better to 
> > > > investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see 
> anything at 
> > > > [1]? 
> > 
> > > > As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably 
> should 
> > > try 
> > > > iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's 
> > > > transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside 
> menus 
> > > which 
> > > > bothers you? 
> > 
> > > > Best regards, 
> > > > Yakov. 
> > 
> > > > [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/ 
> > > > [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/ 
> > > > [3]http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar 
> > 
> > > > понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent 
> Yeh 
> > > > написал: 
> > 
> > > > > Yakov, 
> > 
> > > > > I keep getting an error saying "access forbidden" clicking the 
> link 
> > > below. 
> > > > > Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots here? 
> > 
> > > > > I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of the 
> > > features 
> > > > > working while others not, but the screen is just too small to do 
> any 
> > > useful 
> > > > > test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky? 
> I'll 
> > > use a 
> > > > > larger one to test when I have a chance. 
> > 
> > > > > FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't 
> found 
> > > one 
> > > > > Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet. 
> > 
> > > > > Cheers 
> > 
> > > > > Vincent 
> > 
> > > > > On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: 
> > 
> > > > >> Hello Vincent, 
> > 
> > > > >> thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed in 
> the 
> > > > >> mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, 
> Chrome 
> > > 21.0 
> > > > >> (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the "E" button in 
> tables 
> > > without 
> > > > >> a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki (which is 
> > > more 
> > > > >> painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app.. 
> > 
> > > > >> A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide the 
> code 
> > > > >> using the following wrapper: 
> > 
> > > > >> /*** 
> > > > >> [the header of the plugin, other visible things like Options] 
> > > > >> /% 
> > > > >> ***/ 
> > > > >>      [code here] 
> > > > >> /*** 
> > > > >> %/ 
> > > > >> ***/ 
> > 
> > > > >> As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but found 
> that 
> > > > >> <<tiddler ..>> macro gets an error if used with section which 
> > > contains a 
> > > > >> table:  <<tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with a 
> > > table]]>>. 
> > > > >> Simple transclusion test works: I put a table in one tiddler, 
> > > transcluded 
> > > > >> it into another, edited the table there, no errors, content of 
> the 
> > > first 
> > > > >> tiddler is changed. The only note is if the first tiddler is 
> opened 
> > > at the 
> > > > >> same time, its representation is not refreshed (the table is 
> shown as 
> > > it 
> > > > >> was before editing). 
> > 
> > > > >> I also did a test with merged cells ("|>|one long cell|", "|one 
> high 
> > > > >> cell|\n|~|") and it seems that everything works fine. 
> > 
> > > > >> Is it "cut-and-past the whole column to the one next" you are 
> talking 
> > > > >>> about? 
> > 
> > > > >> If so then I'd rather just do the cut-and-past alone (not yet, 
> > > though). 
> > > > >>> If I am misunderstanding, please tell me more about it. 
> > 
> > > > >> I mean if a table has colomns A, B, C, D, shifting C to the left 
> is 
> > > > >> changing the table so that it has A, C, B, D, and then C, A, B, 
> D. It 
> > > is 
> > > > >> close to copy+paste, just means cutting/pasting of the whole 
> colomn 
> > > > >> (instead of its content as it is done in office-like apps, so 
> that 
> > > one 
> > > > >> needs to delete the colomn after cutting the content and create a 
> new 
> > > > >> colomn before inserting the content). Less efforts for such 
> manual 
> > > sorting 
> > > > >> would be nice. 
> > 
> > > > >> As for the behavior in AndTidWiki (it's an Android app which acts 
> as 
> > > a 
> > > > >> TiddlySaver.jar), I made a bunch of screenshots [1]. Sorry, I 
> haven't 
> > > > >> studied any tool which creates a photo gallery, so there are just 
> > > files at 
> > > > >> [1]; though, I made a zip file so that you can download them at 
> once. 
> > > The 
> > > > >> sequence is approximately the same as I reported previously. 
> Watch 
> > > the top 
> > > > >> table (two others are without names, so are not editable in 
> > > AndTidWiki), 
> > > > >> the names of the pictures say what is done before each screenshot 
> is 
> > > taken. 
> > 
> > > > >> [1]
> http://yakovl.bplaced.net/materials/TW/table%20editor%20report/ 
> > 
> > > >  table editor report.zip 
> > > > 1757KViewDownload 
>

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