On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>> Thanks! I understand now: because they are css generated they don't exist 
>> in the DOM
> I suspected it might be a DOM-inique issue. Though obviously in this case 
> DOM-inique is hands off.
I have no idea what that is.  The problem is as I've (we've) already 
described.  It's CSS, not HTML, it's not in the DOM and hence "it's not 

> The WEIRDNESS of the end-result remains for me. That a normal end-user 
> seeing something on-screen they can't simply copy and paste it. *That is 
> ridiculous*!
And terrible.  I'm now filing after/before under DO NOT USE.  I suspect 
these folks may have something to say on the matter, too:


My original question was about whether there are ways to copy (surface 
> render) that could include the CSS generated content. 
> Given that the characters exist on-screen--in my face. It seems bizarre 
> you can't simply copy and paste them. 
And that's where I think you have a case for filing a category-1 bug.  

1 - If assistive tech can't find it, ARIA is failing.  In the words of 
Donald Trump, that's sad.

2 - If Ctrl-F can't find it, search is broken. 

3 - If it can't be read back from the screen, you can't write a test.  If 
you can't test, you can't validate your code. End of discussion.  Hence, DO 


> *Surely there must be a way to do that?*
Nope.  There is no JS solution I know of, *anywhere*.  Any thoughts I have 
are immediately stymied by "it's not in the DOM". I can wildly imagine 
someone coding up a pseudo-dom AST that then renders to a real DOM element 
but really... it's not worth the effort.


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