On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > BurningTreeC wrote: >> >> Thanks! I understand now: because they are css generated they don't exist >> in the DOM >> > > I suspected it might be a DOM-inique issue. Though obviously in this case > DOM-inique is hands off. > > I have no idea what that is. The problem is as I've (we've) already described. It's CSS, not HTML, it's not in the DOM and hence "it's not there".
> The WEIRDNESS of the end-result remains for me. That a normal end-user > seeing something on-screen they can't simply copy and paste it. *That is > ridiculous*! > > And terrible. I'm now filing after/before under DO NOT USE. I suspect these folks may have something to say on the matter, too: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/free-aria My original question was about whether there are ways to copy (surface > render) that could include the CSS generated content. > > Given that the characters exist on-screen--in my face. It seems bizarre > you can't simply copy and paste them. > > And that's where I think you have a case for filing a category-1 bug. 1 - If assistive tech can't find it, ARIA is failing. In the words of Donald Trump, that's sad. 2 - If Ctrl-F can't find it, search is broken. 3 - If it can't be read back from the screen, you can't write a test. If you can't test, you can't validate your code. End of discussion. Hence, DO NOT USE. > *Surely there must be a way to do that?* > > Nope. There is no JS solution I know of, *anywhere*. Any thoughts I have are immediately stymied by "it's not in the DOM". I can wildly imagine someone coding up a pseudo-dom AST that then renders to a real DOM element but really... it's not worth the effort. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/f51dc8ff-745b-425a-9a3e-c79090d0c6bc%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.