In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> At 9:39 AM -0500 2005-09-11, wayne wrote:
>
>>>  Since we have no control over those configuration generator programs,
>>>  I don't think that this is anything we can help with.
>>
>>  Uh, yes we *can* do something to help this.  We can create timezone
>>  pools.
>
>       Which I've already explained is one of the worst ideas I have yet 
> to hear you come up with.

Yeah, you gave an example of someone in Korea (which would use
asia/seoul as a timezone) might have to connect to a server in Japan
(which would be in the asia/tokyo timezone) via the US.  And then you
suggest that just using the global zone would be better, even if it
had that meant connecting to a server in the Netherlands.

Sorry if I didn't find your explanation very convincing.


>                            Even then, it would require that the 
> people writing the configuration generator programs to support 
> looking at those, and we have no more control over that than we do 
> over anything else they write.

Right, we have no more control over letting people use a timezone
subgroup of the pool than the current continent or country subgroups.


>       Now, if you want to put the attitude aside and help us work on 
> real solutions to the problems we're facing, I would welcome that and 
> I'm sure that others would also.

Yeah, I know.  I had these simple scripts that I used to run that
measured my NTP server load over time.  I started to point out the
growing server load and you dismissed it because I didn't have enough
data.  So, I polished up the scripts and now quite a few people are
using them and looking at the results of those scripts, it appears my
initial data wasn't too far off.



>       Otherwise, you're just spewing attitude onto the list, and that 
> doesn't really do anyone any good.

I'm not sure that your spewing of your condescending attitude to the
list is very productive either.


-wayne
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