> I'm working on libreboot, and doing what I can to make it grow. Libreboot is
> definitely quite useful, IMO.

Maybe instead of us arguing you could help me to see exactly what it is you see. For instance you see a future for libreboot. Why should I care about it in an ARM/other architecture world? I've been convinced by others it doesn't matter. Maybe I/they are wrong.

> Yeah, I call BS on that. Also, see what I wrote about integrating u-boot in libreboot. I was serious.

Rather than call BS why don't you tell me what it is you see. Why did you incorporate u-boot into libreboot? Why not just use u-boot? This would be a more intelligent way to get me agreeing with you (and others for that matter). At least those who understand some of the lingo.

> Why do you keep insisting that I move onto another project?
> You actually know full well that I do most of the work on libreboot,
> and that I have no intention of ever quitting from it.

Maybe because I'm not seeing whatever it is your seeing. I'm looking at everything from a different angle. I don't see the work your doing as being valuable going forward (on ARM and with other architectures). It's only valuable from my perspective right now. Not down the road where we are headed.

I've worked on dozens of different projects never thinking I'd be working on the same project years from now. Maybe similar projects- but not the same project.

Don't you want to 'succeed' with libreboot and move on?

I think we solved the bootloader problem and as such it's time to move onto other projects. Simply adding other bootloaders into libreboot doesn't seem to me to have much if any real value. Maybe it does- but I'm not seeing it so if you want me to see it you need to explain it.

> You've heard plenty of excellent arguments, but since you're hostile to
> it you want to try and discredit it as much as possible, hence statements like this.

Please point me to these excellent arguments. I've heard one or two people state arguments here. I don't believe you stated any though. Not here anyway and assuming I've seen them elsewhere is presuming a lot. I'm not deeply involved in libreboot development. I don't know what your working on or why. u-boot integration? Protein OS integration? What value does that have?

Others have said here:

1. older hardware

OK- maybe- I don't really see significant value in this as the hardware will become the equivalent of a 386 today in a few years.

2. server hardware

OK- maybe- I still don't really see significant value in this in a few years either as it'll again be the equivalent of a 386 in a few years.

ARM and other architectures is quickly overtaking X86. It's still a little difficult to see so I understand why people would make the above arguments. However we as technical individuals should see why X86 is not the ideal direction to head as far as free software hardware is concerned.




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