> n libreboot, we have the message of not compromising, and we work hard to
free as much hardware as possible.
See- that's something I can support too! I'm not against libreboot's
existence. I agree that taking a firm stance is often a good thing. The more
people who do that the better. I'm not sure it helped to do that *yet* in
this case as we were already moving in the right direction and had hardware
that would be mostly free- scratch that- more free than the status quo.
However given it does exist (thanks to you) I respect the position. It
actually is good to see people buying your systems regardless of what my
objections are to Lenovo. It shows that there are people willing to go out on
the limb and buy hardware that is less powerful/capable/etc.
> I look at things differently. We don't wait to create a perfect situation;
I think your misunderstanding what I've suggested. I've never said to not do
nothing or wait until things are perfect. Everybody has to start somewhere. I
was merely suggesting a more efficient approach to get to where you want to
go by focusing on other components that lead to the same place. I want and I
think we both want all our devices to be running 100% free software. Well-
there are lots of devices to pick for which we don't have any good options.
Focusing on them builds up financial resources while solving other non-free
software hardware problems. I don't see a need for libreboot where we are
going because there already exists other free bootloaders. I didn't bother
focusing on coreboot in 2009 because it would be an uphill battle more easily
won once the resources exists to win it. Otherwise we'd always be two steps
behind. I don't want to always be two steps behind. I want to eventually get
to a point where we are two steps ahead of everybody else (in the non-free
world).
> stubbornness is the most important part.
haha- yea' we're both being stuburn.
> RMS was stubborn when he founded the GNU project,
He's the most stubborn of us all.
> The actual technical work is less important, as is the approach,
The technical work might be, but I don't think the approach is. The approach
matters because depending on which approach you take it'll take longer to get
where you are going (a completely free world).
> What you're saying is that the libreboot project could die at one point,
and stop running. You're missing something here, and it's why you don't get
it. It's irrelevant!
I get that your saying sticking to your guns is more important. I get that
and I respect that. It's just not necessary to only stick to your guns. You
can have a better road map and still stick to your guns.
> Seriously, we're both stupid as hell.
I agree.
I don't know what changed or why- but I'm glad. Please have more good days!
We all have bad days... but... it's a real time waster when we argue. I'll
try not to say things to upset you. We're all just looking at all this from
different angles and it's not hard to misunderstand each other. Or for that
matter remember something slightly differently.
I hope everybody is happy now! This feud is over (I think?).
